Saturday 20 July 2024

Closing T20 thoughts

Like many of you, I watched the post-match interview with Mickey Arthur last night and it was clear that he was hurting. I am sure the players are and rest assured the long-suffering supporters feel it more than most..

There is no question that most of the players have underperformed in this competition. The only one who comes out of it with major credit is Pat Brown, who bowled with intelligence and considerable skill throughout. Zak Chappell did pretty well and Samit Patel was usually economical. Yet there were various reasons for our poor displays, as I shall explain.

There was a marked decline in batting. Only eight scores in excess of fifty were made, compared to thirteen the year before. The most obvious decline was Wayne Madsen, but he should not be blamed for the failings of the team overall and of the coaching staff. 

I do not think it was helpful to continually harp on about 'aggressive' 'sexy' cricket played by 'entertainment machines'. I would prefer professional, combative, street smart cricket played by people who adapted their game to the circumstance of the match. 

We threw away several matches with poor decision-making. Leaving the last over to Luis Reece at Northampton was daft. Only making 179 after being 110-1 in ten at Headingley was shocking. Playing only one overseas player in most of the tournament was professional suicide, even though it was an obvious consequence of flawed recruitment. 

Time after time we blew good positions. Nye Donald often got us off to a flying start, but too infrequently built on it. The fine line between brilliance and thoughtlessness was crossed too many times by him and he needs to show that he is more than a player who can smack a few as if it is a beer match, then go back to the pavilion with the job not even half done. 

Yet he provided most of the few bright memories of Derbyshire batting. The rest suffered from a lack of knowledge as to what our best lineup actually was, batting positions that changed with the wind and a collective lack of game awareness. While individuals must take ownership of their failings in the middle, I was never left with any great feeling of a steady hand on the tiller. 

Team selection was never consistent, any more than batting order. The opening pairing of Donald and Lloyd showed promise, yet was prematurely abandoned. Reece was recalled, despite clear signs of decline in this format from previous years and the results were often painful to watch. Guest was up and down the order with seemingly no clarity on his role, Whiteley seemed to be the batting equivalent of Goldilocks' porridge, never quite at the right place in the order. Came got a couple of games and was then abandoned, Wagstaff bowled well in one game but was seemingly an afterthought thereafter. Neither Lloyd nor Madsen looked fully fit, a contributory factor, but I never felt confident about the batting unit and the failure to reinforce it with an overseas player was a big mistake.

Neither Patel nor Whiteley got close to the returns that were needed, both of them sadly suggesting that their best days are behind them. Each played a couple of innings, but that was simply not good enough, in a season when it was all anyone really managed. Questions have to be asked about the batting coach, but also about recruitment. Much noise was made about Derbyshire becoming 'the county of choice' but there has been no evidence of that.

Recruitment has been little more than a shambles this year. While I have every sympathy for Blair Tickner and his wife and their off field challenges, neither he nor Daryn Dupavillon suggested they were close to the required standard of an overseas import. It was always likely that the standouts in the team would be Chappell and Brown, which made the decision to recruit two specialist seam bowlers ludicrous in the extreme. It was equally obvious that to play them both would leave a lengthy tail, which was hardly a game plan of cunning, with such a flimsy batting line up. We waited for Mohammad Amir, but although he bowled tidily, he never suggested he was at full pace and never won us a game. Which is why you sign such players, after all. Zaman Khan did so, last year and how he was missed.

When we did, belatedly, sign a batter, it was a third wicket keeper, when we were already fielding two. It made little sense, but injury apparently limited the appearances of Cam Fletcher, even though he was oddly named in squads.

Compare and contrast: some may say we did okay, as a small county, but so are Northamptonshire and they qualified. They also recruited well - a look at their batting averages show Raza, Breetzke and Agar in the first three positions, two of them also bowlers. Not forgetting the shrewd acquisition of Ravi Bopara..

Then there is Leicestershire. They brought in Jimmy Neesham and also took Lewis Goldsworthy on loan from Somerset, who came second in the batting averages and top of the bowling. We should have been all over such a signing, as I wrote last year, when I also mentioned Ethan Brookes, who has done well for Worcestershire.

It was always clear to me - read older posts if you wish - that the fifth bowler was going to be an issue. Despite the challenges of the World Cup, a coach with Mickey Arthur's background should have been able to find an all rounder from somewhere, failing which a spinner, failing which cutting the losses and signing a top batter.

If you recruit a star bowler - let alone average ones - for T20 he can only influence four overs. A batter can do so over 20, an all rounder more. The Derbyshire class of 2024 was shorn of du Plooy, Haider Ali and Tom Wood and the loss was keenly felt. 

The bottom line is that no Derbyshire player who was here in 2023 has improved. It is a shame to have to write it, but it is also an undeniable fact. So either the message is being lost in translation between coaches and players, the environment is not conducive to improvement or the players signed and re-signed are simply not good enough. For the record, I don't think it is the latter, in most cases.

Mickey Arthur said again last night that there are some very good players in the dressing room. There are, so supporters have to question why they are not producing their best. They were all signed by or given new contracts by him, so something is wrong.

Given that he said at the time of his appointment that four years was about the right length of contract, because the message starts to get lost at that point, it seems we are there a year early. 

I don't think the board would be brave enough to call time on his tenure, nor can we probably afford to do so. 

But I am less than optimistic that the club can be turned around until there is an overhaul of the coaching staff. There appears to be a disconnect that isn't going to go away until we do so.

That win over Nottinghamshire and the one over Yorkshire at Chesterfield seem like a very long time ago..

37 comments:

  1. Very valid comments. The batting weakness was clear to see and yet we persist in recruiting bowlers. This was the season we were going to move forwards, but in both red and white ball formats we clearly are not.

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  2. I agree with all of this. Last night was very disappointing, and what was most disappointing was the manner of the defeat. Let's be honest, Durham strolled to victory and were in control the whole game. Our position in the championship is pitiful and we only have the one day cup to look forward to. I wish I could say that I'm confident about that, but I'm not at all and can't see us winning many games. It's great that the county are making a profit year in year, but if the cricket club isn't performing I sometimes wonder what the point is. Jon.

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    1. Haha Jon. The ‘Profit for ten years in a row’ trophy is one we must we must dearly cherish. Craig.

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  3. The gamble with prioritizing the Blast is that so do other counties and those usually have better budgets and player development. It was no surprise that 3 of the 4 qualifiers in the North group were counties with test venues.

    Building a middle order around Madsen, Patel and Whiteley means we would be all or nothing next season as none are likely to be at the club in 2026 so we would have to start again.

    I thought Micky Arthur was an excellent appointment when made but if he keeps giving the players the hairdryer treatment (which by all accounts he did last night) is not always the best way to motivate players.

    It also seemed that he listens to the commentary as in his interview after the match he referred to something Tom Wood (who I thought was an excellent summarizer) mentionned during commentary.

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  4. Good analysis as always, Steve. Watching Mickey's interview on the club web site reminded me of a Dave Houghton interview just before he departed. Both were at a loss to explain why the team wasn't performing as it should.

    This makes you wonder what goes on in the training sessions and what the coaches actually do with players who are not performing well. If a batsman keeps getting out to poor shots, then shouldn't they be able to address this. They have so much video material and data available to them it must be coming out of their ears..

    Despite a poor season, so far, I would stick with Mickey.
    We've only won one trophy in thirty-two years, the second division in 2012. I might be alone here, but I think it might work out with Mickey.

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  5. Spot on Peakfan.Maybe you should work with Mickey in an advisory role ha! Let's see how we get on in the RLC the longer format should suit a lot of our players.Things will have to change though and all wecan do is hope Mickey has learnt a lot about what we need to take our wonderful club forward Topspinner.

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    1. I am sure Mickey would love that! Then again, a Derbyshire side with Goldsworthy and Brookes would be stronger and have longer term potential than the current one, where major surgery is needed in the next year or so.

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  6. Very fair appraisal of where the Club find themselves, needs some strong timely leadership from the board ,analysis of the cricket performance ( both process and results ) and I’d include the players as part of a holistic assessment.I have no clarity in terms of the squad going forwards
    Dupavillon, Fletcher, Hundred,Overseas franchise gigs .
    Worst Case we lose both overseas , Madsen,Donald,Whiteley Patel , would be good for the club to communicate the landscape for the remaining games

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    1. The squad next year will be dictated by domestic recruitment, but we need two top overseas players. There is no point paying the expense of average ones

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    2. My worry point is the squad for the rest of the season as I assume Amir and Dupavillon are done plus Fletcher is injured , combine that with , injuries , poor form ,Hundred and other franchise cricket … not sure what we have in the dressing room tbh going forwards

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    3. Dupavillon is here to September, Paul, but I don't know of Fletcher. Wayne, Nye and I think Brown will be called up for the 100

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  7. This season has been a car crash and the t20 campaign an absolute mess. Feels like we got closer to qualification than we might otherwise through sheer luck and some hitting from Donald, there certainly didn't seem to be any coherent strategy.

    Arthur's gamble on experience has left us empty handed but with an aging core of players whose contributions will only continue to decline.

    The One Day Cup is a shell of a tournament so let's not pretend that there is anything more than crumbs of comfort still to salvage from the season.

    Came, Bin Naeem, Moore, Wagstaff and Potts should start the first game and stay in the side unless they look woeful.

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    1. I agree, Hamez. I would get more pleasure from a couple of wins here with those playing, than in winning more with the same players. We have to look to the future of the club

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    2. I absolutely agree, I would much rather see the 5 Hamez mentions playing and growing through the tournament than more of what we’ve already seen.

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    3. I'll absolutely despair if we see the same aging side selected again with no eye for the future.

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  8. I see the other 2 "making up the numbers" sides at the bottom of division 2, have qualified for the quarters. I wish Gloucs and Northants well. It seems that every other side does well in at least one format. Maybe we can be the Leics of the 2023 50 overs! Kris

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  9. Yes, bring in the young guns for the one-day cup. We need to be nurturing our future talent.

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  10. Mickey Arthur's interview gave a pretty good analysis of the batting errors, the quality of the three 'defensive' bowlers and the lack of a wicket-taking bowler. What was conspicuous by its absence was an analysis of where he and the other coaches have gone wrong. I realise this would have meant a much longer interview, but good leadership is about clearly accepting responsibility, not constantly shuffling it all on to those who are led.

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    1. It was exactly that Martin. He pointed out all the failings correctly but most experienced observers could do that. It is the management’s job to anticipate that/spot it early and correct it. I don’t know how to change a player’s behaviour/application but I’m not paid a generous salary to do so. Craig.

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    2. Agreed totally, Martin. Too often the post match comments have been 'anyone, but me' and it isn't as simple as that. It never is

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  11. What a disappointing end to what has been an awful competition for Derbyshire. The worry is that this was the format they were concentrating on for some success. Sadly the wooden spoon beckons in the four day game and l don’t expect much from the much maligned fifty over stuff.

    The season started off with much optimism but that soon diminished and it’s been a painful watch ever since. My one highlight was beating Yorkshire at Queens Park that helped overcome the trauma of the three day defeat in the earlier encounter.

    We all thought things were bad under Houghton but has there been any improvement under Arthur, I don’t think so. Too much tinkering with the batting order, poor overseas recruitment, players messed about with like Thomson and so much muddled decision making eg. Winning the toss at Queens Park and batting!!

    As others have said time for an injection of youth as we look an old and dispirited side right now.

    Nudger

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    1. It's the lack of logic, Nudger. Supporters aren't all stupid and they see when mistakes are being made in plain sight. Too many mistakes, some of them basic things, have been made. Too many selections as if pulled from a hat...

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  12. Chesterfield Blue21 July 2024 at 09:15

    I think a poor Royal London Cup campaign should seal Mickey's fate, his position would surely become untenable. I still can't get my head round the fact that we are a worse team now than in Mickey's first season, that takes some doing but he's managed it superbly. None of last winters signings have paid off, all have been very underwhelming Pat Brown probably the exception but it seems he was only signed for the t20.
    I just have zero faith in Mickey getting the recruitment right this winter as well

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  13. Very disappointing . Strange team selections on thursday and friday. Why was Guest left out of the team on Thursday and why were Chappell and Wagstaff left out on Friday? It seemed strange to play Dupavillon on a slow pitch on friday. What had Chappell and Wagstaff done wrong on thursday? Chappell had played in most of the games and had taken 2 wickets on thursday. Wagstaff should have played instead of Reece on Friday. Hard to understand the logic unless injuries were involved in the decisions made.

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    1. I think I read that Samit had said that Chappell had a niggle. Dupavillion was then selected and only bowled one over until he came on for the last rites over at the end.
      The main mistake for me over the season would be the haphazard overseas recruitment, should have got an opener in. I think Pat Brown has done well, Donald has given the batting a good start in the power play but failed to carry it on afterwards. Ross has played 2 match winning innings , but had a lot of failures in between.
      Its easy to criticise after the event. but if Mickey had not brought any players then the charge would presumably be lack of ambition, should have rolled the dice.
      Also 20-20 is not an exact science , its difficult to win consistently as the result in the short format can be affected by a few lusty blows with the bat or a key wicket or two. The 'best' team does not always win.
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  14. Chesterfield Blue21 July 2024 at 12:28

    Didn't realise we were playing Cheshire today, looks like we've found our level anyway. Embarrassing stuff yet again!

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    1. Thankfully Guest and Bin Naeem saved us from complete embarrassment. Just a thought, but maybe bat Bin Naeem higher than 8 in future. Really impressed with the maturity he showed today, when the veterans lacked it and left us in a massive hole.

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  15. I said it before we started the blast, that I saw no sense in signing 36 and 40 year old players and who’s stats showed where both in steady and obvious decline. I fail to see how the recruitment process did not see this🤷🏻‍♂️. Whitley scored barely a hundred runs last year in the whole campaign at around a run a ball. Samit averaged less than 20 with the bat at a similar strike rate. His bowling economy was 1 run per over better than our own spinners and took very few wickets. Signing players on past glories is an absolute nonsense. In comparison we release a 30 year old batter in Tom Wood who averaged 38 at 160 in 2023 including one of the fastest 100s in the clubs history. In fact his entire T20 career has a similar average with a strike rate around 140. Wood was also the obvious opener after last year which once again we have failed to sort out, going back to past failures in a hope that doing the same thing will produce different results. Bringing Reece back in to open being the obvious sign of insanity., The fact we release a player in his prime with such obvious potential and bring in 2 aging players who are clearly on the slide is frankly beyond me. I dread what we paid for Samit but I understand from whispers in and around the club it was a lot!
    Criminal recruitment in my opinion. I think we are also stook with both for another year ?
    Absolutely no thought at all given to club development and progression. The Yanks would call them Hail Mary appointments that have failed miserably!! Both only managing a couple of worthwhile contributions in the whole campaign. That along with poor bowling recruitments have sealed our fate in this comp. The management should now do honourable thing, fall on their sword and make way for a new regime. I feel this management team have more than lost the dressing room. We are saddled with this group of players now for at least another year. I agree with Mickey that we have a decent set of players . It his down to him that he as been unable to get them performances close to potential. End of Rant
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  16. Chesterfield Blue21 July 2024 at 13:47

    Well done to Brooke Guest and debutant Bin Naeem for bailing us out of the dirt against the mighty Cheshire. Any more info on Bin Naeem Steve, looks a great prospect?

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  17. Hardly the morale boosting performance with the bat at Cheshire today. All out for 242 in the final over. My general opinion is that we simply have too many players who are not of promotion challenging ability. You could see a quality side maybe carrying one or two but we are a side where the overwhelming majority of players wouldn't interest a county challenging for a promotion from Div 2. In truth, maybe only Brooke Guest fits that description.

    Off the pitch, I've enjoyed Tom Wood on comms whenever I've heard him.

    Dave

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  18. Watched the Derbyshire innings against Cheshire on you tube, Poor batting display except for Guest and Bin Naeem who looked very organised and a decent prospect. Hope we bowl well.

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  19. The bowling’s been even worse!

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  20. Hey Mikey "your guys are taking one hell of a beating"

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  21. Chesterfield Blue21 July 2024 at 17:02

    Lol, you really couldn't make this up today. Absolutely battered by Cheshire with 15 overs to spare. Someone please tell me there's not major issues within this changing room, because something is seriously not right

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  22. Losing to Cheshire underlines what a poor season this has been. Only Guest and Bin Naeem shone. Cheshire made our bowling attack look ordinary - we bowled 21 wides and four no balls!

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  23. Only a tune up match but being well beaten by a minor county with 15 overs to spare hardly inspires confidence for the 50 over tournament proper. Of those who are looking to force their way into the side only Bin Naeem furthered his claim which is immensely disappointing.

    I understand and respect your desire to keep criticism generalised rather than personal Peakfan so I'll simply ask if you think any of our younger pace bowlers (Aitchison aside) are skilful enough to warrant perservering with.

    Dave

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