Wednesday, 29 December 2021

County numbers surface AGAIN..

Isn't it funny how, as soon as they start doing badly, the usual suspects start to blame the English system for national failings. 'We don't need eighteen counties' is the battle cry from Kevin Pietersen, keen to extend the franchises to four - day cricket.

So when England win 50 and 20-over trophies it is fine then?

I don't get this argument that reducing down to eight or ten franchises would make our game stronger. For one thing you are halving the talent pool, and removing the possibility of a player overlooked for franchises developing elsewhere.

Would Ben Aitchison be thriving in the county game, but for Derbyshire? Would Sam Conners be a regular elsewhere? Both could become international bowlers, but they need to play cricket. 

People mention us, Leicestershire and Northamptonshire as targets, forgetting that 'big' counties poach our best talent once developed. Would that happen? I doubt it.. What about the late developers, of which there are many? 

For another thing, the crucial established fan base of the game would be lost. I couldn't care less about England, broadly speaking. I feel no 'connect' with the side and would always watch Derbyshire over them. The likely 5-0 whitewash in the Ashes can be laid squarely at the door of the ECB, not the players. I have watched about thirty minutes of the series, so far. 

The ECB decided to consign the four-day game to the bookends of the season. They promoted 100 - ball cricket to the detriment of the purest form. They ensured that we went into the biggest and oldest international series with next to no relevant practice.They ploughed crazy resources into a tournament few people want. They hand out central contracts, so international players don't need to play cricket..

Part of the issue is that the jump from county to Test is now too big. If international players had to play at least half of their county matches it would be a start. Who gets better at anything by not doing it? Two quality overseas per side helps too - just ask those who plied their trade in the 70s, 80s and 90s, often facing attacks better than international ones. When you had faced Imran Khan and Garth le Roux at Hove, or Clive Rice and Richard Hadlee at Trent Bridge, there were no worries at international level. So too if you could handle Holding, Mortensen, Malcolm, Bishop, Cork and De Freitas at Derby.. there was little much stronger on the international stage. 

Sport is cyclical. Look at the West Indies, Sri Lanka, Pakistan. They had rich periods of success and they will come again, but they had their poor spells too. 

We have gone from asking Buttler. Bairstow, Malan and others to go from 50 off 20 balls to five-hour tons. It is no surprise that the only consistent player is Joe Root, who rarely plays in the short form.

I think Chris Silverwood will go, but so should Tom Harrison, who I am ashamed to say played for Derbyshire. The organisation needs an overhaul, as quite simply it isn't fit for purpose.

What price, as someone pointed out on the previous post, Mickey Arthur being seen as an option to replace him?

Not that we have seen anything of him yet and I confess to being a little concerned over not just the delay, but the massive silence from the club as to when he will be here.

I would have thought that an obvious PR win to let supporters and members know. 

Unless they don't know, and if that is the case they should tell us why that is. 

17 comments:

  1. An excellent point, Peakfan, about the former quality of county cricket when there were so many top overseas players here.

    Meanwhile, Ben McDermott has become the first player to score consecutive centuries in the BBL. His second knock of 127 in 65 balls was described by Andrew Symonds as the best innings ever played in that competition.

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    1. I have to say that second ton was perhaps the cleanest display of hitting I've ever seen.

      If he gets a gig in the Blast can see him being every bit as good as Inglis.

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  2. What do you expect when the top run scorer in the country isn't even selected for the Lions squad?

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  3. THE ECBs main aim seems to be maximise the amount of money coming into the game , rather than the performance of the national team, especially in test matches.
    They also left themselves very short of match practice prior to this series and then got rained off in the only warm up game?

    Like you I have never followed the argument that fewer counties would make England stronger, there are already 2 divisions and a drift of the better players towards the bigger counties in Division 1.
    Martin

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  4. Anything the ECB have anything to do with is invariably an utter shambles.

    It annoys me that their selections are so biased towards the so called 'big counties' that we see players having to leave smaller counties to get noticed. Players can quite literally move to a bigger county, perform worse and get called up based on the previously ignored form at a smaller county.

    Just look at their fast bowler program and the stream of ruined, unfit and broken bowlers it churns out e.g. Finn, Archer, Wood, Stone and so on.

    The issues with the CC aren't the amount of teams, it's the schedule which sees teams playing only on seaming greentops early on or utter shambles later at the tail end of the summer. And it's the pitches themselves which allow dibbly dobblers to thrive into their 40s and which don't encourage either spinners or actual fast bowlers.

    You may be able to tell this winds me up. The ECB is just an old boys club who have little interest other than lining their pockets and looking after anyone who went to the right school.

    The counties themselves made a fantastic effort at getting most of their four day cricket streamed on YouTube recently, the ECB should be supporting this and marketing it as much as possible. And they should be getting cricket into state schools. The Hundred does one good thing in that it gets cricket on freely viewed TV but it does many other bad things that could have been avoided by more creative interest in the Blast which is a superb tournament.

    Also the Hundred...who in their right mind could comprehend a domestic system which stops the best players playing ANY List A cricket. Take for example young Will Smeed at Somerset, so good in his T20 forays that he gets a hundred contract. He looks a fantastic prospect and should England one day come calling (probably once he's moved to Surrey) he could make his List A debut in his first ODI. There will be a whole generation of these players eventually and we'll be crap at that format too.

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    1. Top post Hamez, can't disagree with anything said. However, the problem with promoting the game within state schools is there often is no infrastructure to do it. Playing fields have been sold off at an alarming rate in the last 20 or so years. Therefore you end up with either public schools supplying the majority of pro cricketers or you have to rely on local clubs to bring them through. Think we've seen enough 3rd and 4th teams in the leagues going to the wall recently to know that enough young "working class" kids aren't coming through the system. I don't believe there's a magic bullet to solve the problem so cricket in the UK needs root and branch reform. Let's hope that the powers that be don't consider the loss of smaller counties as collateral damage worth giving up on.

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    2. Excellent points here mate and I share your pain.

      Someone recently called the Hundred 'nothing but glorified rounders'

      I agreed with him. Little is more dull than watching batsmen slog sweep or hoik over cow Corner all the time.

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    3. Think the playing field thing is an excuse given by State schools, yes some were sold off, but the vast majority, at least in my cramped county, have plenty of fields left, more than enough for a cricket pitch to not impact other activities and use of fields. Its an easy trope to wheel out but not correct. The issue is more to do with priorities, teaching willingness (given the lenght of the game), H&S, the timing of exams, the overlapping of the football season etc.

      Play the championship at sensible time of year on decent pitches and kill the hundred and promote the blast and that will solve most issues. If we must, use the Kookaburra ball the season before the away ashes, and remove over limit for batting bonus points to encourage batting long, and decrease the over limit for bowling points to encourage attacking bowling. Actually crack down on poor pitches far more readily (i'm looking at you Somerset - a turning pitch from day one produces spinners who are clueless on unhelpful or normal wickets, Leach (and Bess...) a huge case in point..if the pitch does nothing he simply has no idea what to do and is cannon fodder)

      Happy New Year to you and yours Steve, thanks for a cracking blog thats of interest to all fans of county cricket, and hopefully, 2022 brings our respective counties better fortunes and the health situation f**ks off finally so we can all start enjoying a day at the cricket again! (excuse the language but i'm sure most on here are as fed up as me with the last 2 years or so).

      Happy NY everyone.

      Essex Fan

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  5. Test playing status should be suspended for any side that loses all games in a series by more than 5 wickets / 100 runs.

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  6. Is Mickey Arthur flying in from South Africa Peakfan, if so there surely will be a lengthy delay because of Covid restrictions?

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    1. I would guess he is in Oz, where his family gave been for years. Saw him refer to his last day in Sri Lanka about ten days back so assumed him on his way. Obviously not, so hope there are no visa or Covid delays...

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  7. Doesn't he want to relocate his family to the UK? Isn't that one of the main attractions in taking the Derbyshire job, regarding England if heads are going to role then Tom Harrison's should be the first the farcical situation the ECB found itself in last summer with a test match county 50 over KO matches and the 100 all being played on the same day was ridiculous

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  8. The biggest change to the county set-up from the 70s-90s is the creation of a second division, which inevitably meant the creation of second class counties. For me, the reality is that this structure has few benefits to the national game, because in effect it does reduce the talent pool, with second division players inadequately challenged and therefore seldom considered for honours. And for the likes of Derbyshire, the structure poses an existential threat, and always will do. It's a matter for real concern that it has been reinstated.

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  9. I would love to add to this debate but cannot think of anything to say that hasn't been said already. Well said everyone!Just one question for Peakfan - when did Tom Harrison play for Derbyshire. I don't recall anyone of that name in our squad.

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    1. He played 5 f/c and 7 list A matches in 1995. Left arm seamer who finished with a batting average of 11 and bowling one of 55.

      And yet still a better cricketer than CEO..

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  10. Still think we're short of a couple of players, hope to see some signings in the next few weeks. And when is Mickey Arthur arriving, all a bit strange this delay. Surely he's not had second thoughts, has he?. That's just my typical Derbyshire head working overtime again Steve, lol

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