I was fascinated to receive some statistics from a friend this week. He had gone into the records of Derbyshire's recent past to examine the results of the respective county coaches/Heads of Cricket.
There was a time when the position rarely changed, of course. Denis Smith became county coach in 1951 and retired in 1971, having overseen a period of relative success in the 1950s and a more transitional one in the decade that followed, as bona fide club legends gradually retired.
He was no shrinking violet and a hard task master. The stories are legion about how he could put people firmly in their place with a look, or a pithy comment. His methods would likely not have been appreciated today, but they were different times, in school and in the work place.
'I don't mollycoddle them. No one holds their hands in the middle' he was fond of saying, while Edwin Smith told me how, after being dismissed by the opposition off spinner, he got back to the pavilion to be told 'you bowl it, you should know by now how to play it..'
Edwin took over from his namesake, tasked with bringing through young players because there was little money for anything else, and then sacked because those youngsters had - unsurprisingly - no success in too short a time frame. He was poorly treated, but a good few of those youngsters subsequently went on to long county careers.
Fortunes improved under Eddie Barlow and then Phil Russell, in contrasting styles restoring pride and respect to the county. Both of them, crucially, excellent man managers. You can get so much more from people if you take them with you as you go.
Since the millennium, there have been more frequent changes. The rankings for the various club coaches who had any real time at the club - and the match percentage of their wins in red ball cricket - are as follows:
Karl Krikken - 27.1%
John Morris - 22.2%
Graeme Welch - 20.6%
Mickey Arthur - 16%
Dave Houghton (2004–07) -11%
Dave Houghton (2018–21) - 8%
I have always maintained that Karl Krikken was poorly treated, but the tenures of the top two in that list were both shorter than they perhaps should have been.
It is fair to say that John Morris had a very good eye for a player. It was he who brought in the likes of Wayne Madsen, Chesney Hughes, Tony Palladino, Tim Groenewald and Jon Clare, as well as the mercurial Wavell Hinds, at a time when Kolpaks flooded the county game. He also signed Chris Rogers and Charl Langeveldt, both of them outstanding overseas recruits. The strong nucleus of the 2012 promotion squad is right there.
Yet John Shawcroft's excellent Celebration of Derbyshire County Cricket Club, published to mark the 150th anniversary, records skipper Luke Sutton saying that 'the feedback from every single player was very, very negative...it was the right thing to do' when Morris was relieved of his duties.
It is equally appropriate to acknowledge that Karl Krikken was a beneficiary of Morris' work. Again, John Shawcroft records Karl Krikken obtaining 'a negotiated release from his contract 'after the club introduced an elite performance model, which was to be overseen by an elite cricket performance director' - a role subsequently taken on by Graeme Welch.
The results of both men were better than we have experienced at any time since. Krikken took us into Division One with a young squad and should certainly have been given more time with them. What he might have done with five years and a young team is a moot point.
Dave Houghton's results are damning, and one can only ponder how he was deemed the 'best option' for a return, after the 'effectiveness' of his first stint. I liked Dave as a man, but the results second time around were even worse and therein lies my concern for Derbyshire right now.
I don't think the current squad at the county is at all bad. There are some good players among their number, but the reality is that Mickey Arthur has proved consistently unable to get the best from them. He hasn't managed it in five years, so why should we expect an improvement over the next two? By his own admission, as well as those in wider sports coaching, players stop listening to a coach after three years, because they hear nothing new.
There have been a couple of relevant stories in The Cricketer in the past week. One of them, by George Dobell, said that up to five counties are looking for Heads of Cricket this winter. I am unaware of any stories connecting Mickey Arthur to those roles and that tells a story, I think. So does the fact that none of the Hundred franchises had him involved last summer. His stock has fallen, beyond doubt, though seemingly not in Derbyshire.
In the second story, Nick Howson in his end of season roundup said that Arthur's referral to supporters as ignorant 'may be tough to come back from'. For all the protestations that the comment was taken out of context, I maintain the club handled this badly.
Ryan Duckett said that it showed his passion and commitment, which is nonsense. There are plenty of people with equal commitment about what they do who do not resort to insulting the fan base. He should have been censured for this and a statement released accordingly.
Nick also says the following, at the end of the article:
Arthur might be bathed in international experience, be as big an advocate of the county game as any of his contemporaries, be a member of the newly- formed County Insight Group and give Derbyshire global appeal. But promotion challenges haven't consistently materialised and the support has all but evaporated.
I know mine has. My expectations for next year, if he remains at the helm, will be the lowest they have ever been. Regular readers will know that my unfailing optimism has been a feature of my time in writing this blog, but I would like to think I temper it with realism.
Five years into a three-year project, two years after players 'stop listening', members and supporters have another two years of this to 'look forward to'. Well, whoopy-doo, wait while I get out the bunting..
I just feel the laissez-faire attitude at the club is worrying. Off the field they are great, doing brilliant stuff, but there appears to be little accountability for a man who has had far longer than other, more able ones were ever allowed. If any of the players were to say 'But I am passionate about my job, I work hard on my skills, I am hurting and this club means a lot to me', when they had averaged 20 with the bat and their contract was up for renewal, do you think it would save them?
Mickey talks about the 'currency' of players being runs and wickets. By extension, his has to be results. You can't judge a coach on how hard he works, how he reflects and how much it hurts when we lose. Sport is a results-driven basis and he hasn't been on the right side of anywhere near enough of them. With or without HIS team.
We might have won a few red ball games, but we were still 16th out of 18 counties and I don't think that is good enough. I also think we can do better than that with a different coach and not too great a change to the staff.
The recovery can start here, but only if those in charge are big enough to make the call. Maybe canvassing the players, as they did with John Morris, is a good place to start?
As for members, the forum this month is an opportunity to make your voice heard, if you agree.
And as always, your comments are much appreciated.
Spot on PF Simon
ReplyDeleteYet another spot on article. I think at least 90 per cent of Derbyshire fans must agree with everything you have said. Someone recently said on this forum that the crowds for T20 and the money made from food and drink at these games are far more important to the club then what the regulars at county games think or say which I think sadly is very true. Derbyshire are however in danger of alienating so many supporters that even crowds at these games will dwindle and they might not get a generation of younger supporters coming to watch in a few years. Ryan Ducketts remarks about Arthur just showing he cares about the club by calling supporters ignorant are awful. The fact Arthur has said that after 3 or 4 years the players stop listening to a coach is actually quite funny. Maybe that’s a good thing in his case. I wonder if he loses his temper and is rude to members at the upcoming forum he will also get away with that
ReplyDeleteIn view of Arthur seemingly refusing to accept any responsibility for this season's performances, then I think canvassing the playing staff is a very good idea. That would confirm without doubt their feelings and send a message to the board.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise the club will continue to loose support which it can't afford to do.
And the repeated calls from the likes of Hughes, Atherton et al will just intesify. I remeber each of them writing articles over twenty five years ago questioning " what is the point of DCCC".
The results under Arthur just adds to their ammunition.
Ian. S.Africa.
Also the percentage of wins in red ball cricket shows Arthur in a very bad light because the others would have had all or most games in one division cricket so would have been playing the best teams as well as the weaker ones.
ReplyDeleteThanks for a very interesting article, Peakfan.
ReplyDeleteConcerning your comment that Karl Krikken should ‘have been given more time’, do you think the club might have reflected on this?
If so, it would might explain why Micky’s contract has been extended beyond the original four years.
Dre.
Kk had success hence why he should have had me ore time. What has Arthur done to justify more time?
DeleteEssex fan
On another post, Kris quite rightly points out that the number of championship games Derbyshire won last season was, relatively speaking, not that bad.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, my understanding is that the last time Derbyshire did better than this was the 2012 season.
I don’t think percentages always tell us the full story. It would be interesting to see a comparison of the win-to-loss ratio for each of the different managers, as this would more accurately reflect the overall performance of the team in each era.
Dre.
How. About Wayne madden as coach
ReplyDeleteNot for me, John. It's hard to go from one of the players to their coach and he has no coaching experience.
DeleteBut Daryn Smit would be a very strong option, as would Ben Smith, who has had success in New Zealand. They could save money by restructuring at this stage.
Not sure if Wayne would want the job either, with his family in South Africa now?
I too think canvassing the playing staff - privately - is a very good idea. I worked in a small office, about 12 of us. We had a young manager thrown at us from head office in London. No experience, no idea how to manage and ran the office by bullying and inducing fear. No one dared complain to head office for it would have got back to him by one of his cronies there. The atmosphere was always absolutely toxic.
ReplyDeleteIt was only when he left and a senior manager came from London to interview us that the truth came out. He was horrified.
Perhaps if he'd have come after a year, rather than four, to see how things were going, all might have turned out differently.
Chris H (Leicestershire)
I think we would have done better, had we been able to retain Critchley, du Plooy and Masood. You could argue that Arthur only signed one of those. I also think we'd have done better this year, if Jewell had performed like 2025. Where we'd have been without Andersson and Aitchison this season, is a scary thought. I think Chappell was a big miss, just as much for his batting. Kris
ReplyDeleteIf Duckett & Co were doing their jobs properly they wouldn’t need to be canvassing opinion from the players. DCCC is a small club and by just being around the dressing room and other parts of the club they would pick up on any negative vibes from the players. The problem is of course they rarely venture out of the pavilion area which is the one place you won’t find the players. In any case it’s evident that RD is in total awe of MA otherwise he would have acted over MA’s unsavoury remarks recently. I fear the forum will follow its usual path with any negativity from members brushed under the carpet. Having attended recent ones I certainly won’t be going this time.
ReplyDeletePaul
And yet as PF says 16of 18 still.
ReplyDeleteSorry defending the indefensible. A few suspect commentators on here likely under different names?
There is simply no way shape or form to justify Arthur's getting an extension when he did.
Give us just 1?
Essex fan.
I've hardly commented here this season. I lost faith in MA prior to his contract extension and have struggled to find much enthusiasm since. Your article(s) and the comments cover everything well.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to know what the way forward is in the short-term, I doubt that the members are organised enough to arrange a vote of no confidence or suchlike. It feels as though the club is perfectly happy with mid-table obscurity as long as they make a nominal profit.
I believe that MA is in Canada being an anchor, I just wish he'd stay there.
Paul (Pride Park)
Good article PF. Be interesting to see the white ball win rate, especially year on year as feel it's likely low and hasn't been getting better.
ReplyDeleteAs an aside I seen Dan Hughes wasn't retained at Sussex, he's getting on but a more than reliable opener in all formats. Worth a look as overseas?
Great article. MA really should go & the board not actioning his departure is negligence on their part.
ReplyDeleteWill I go to the forum, no as I never have & doubt the value of such events. A bit like I never watch from the pavilion.
But, I renewed my membership today. I expect it will be largely a painful watch next season, but I like going to watch my team.
Markb
Apropos nothing. your comment about Denis Smith was true I had a trial with Derbyshire towards the end of his tenure i was 13 and played what I thought was a crashing drive ! His comment was i could bl.....y blow it harder than that !! He did gently say he had good news and bad news. GOOD NEWS I AM PLAYING ALL THE RIGHT SHOTS BUT AT LEAST A SEC TOO LATE !.I did share a beer with him at a pub in Derby not long before he died. WHEN he saw me he remembered and pretended to blow !
ReplyDeleteSorry Malbar
ReplyDeleteThis season, Derbyshire won 28.6% of their championship games. When you juxtapose this season's win percentage against those achieved by other managers in recent years, winning this many games appears to be a fantastic achievement.
ReplyDeleteHowever, when you examine the win-to-loss ratio, it was only 0.36 this season compared to 0.60 last season.
Surely this illustrates the point that a win-to-loss ratio is generally much more accurate than a simple win percentage, especially considering they finished third in the league last season.
In addition, draws can be a very valuable result for helping a team climb the table.
I hope next season, the team shows more resilience.
Dre.