Tuesday, 23 December 2025

Bashir link surfaces

My post bag has been as sizeable as Santa's sack today, after a story appeared in The Daily Mail regarding Shoaib Bashir:

Daily Mail Sport can reveal off-spinner Bashir, whose snubbing for the first three Tests against Australia followed his release by Somerset. Unless there are any last-minute hitches, the 22-year-old will complete his switch to Derbyshire in the coming days.

Derbyshire believe there is potential for growth in Bashir as a bowler within their environment and equally that their squad will benefit from having someone with 68 Test wickets within it.

The only stumbling block has been some concern at board level about the six-figure salary such a player carries, and the prospect of it coming out of the 2027 budget should he lose his central contract next autumn.

Derbyshire’s outlay on him during the 2026 season will be limited to relocation expenses plus bonuses for team performance - whether he is selected by England or not.

Bashir’s 6ft 4in stature and high release point appear to be ideally suited to Derby, now one of the country’s bouncier venues for bowlers. But with competition from Jack Morley, the slow left-armer, highly rated by Arthur, he may have to bide his time to establish himself as the club’s No1 spinner.

My understanding is that things are not quite so clear cut and that this may be another of those stories emanating from the player's agent.

There is interest from Derbyshire and, as I wrote recently, I think he could follow in the footsteps of such luminaries as Tony Palladino, Mark Footitt, Martin Andersson, Luis Reece and Nye Donald in finding a successful home at the club. We have long been seen as welcoming, with the right atmosphere both inside and outside the dressing room. Some people need that, being valued and appreciated to produce their best.

Bashir can clearly play, but he needs the opportunity to rebuild his reputation in a positive environment, with the right coaching support. There also needs to be a touch of realism from the player/agent side, I suspect. Derbyshire has a finite budget and while the cost is minimal for this year under his central contract, they cannot and surely will not over commit for year two. 

By the same token, again as I wrote recently, we have only one recognised senior spinner on the staff. If we can afford to do so, how better to rectify that situation than with the man who has been seen as the best in the country until recently? How nice would it be to have the resources to challenge, regardless of the conditions? How good would it be to see 'Shoaib Bashir - Derbyshire' on an England team sheet? 

What the lad needs is a chance to bowl. Long spells, getting a rhythm, a preferred end and tiredness at the end of the day. Contrary to the current belief in the England set up, you don't get better at anything in life if you don't do a lot of it. Edwin Smith bowled hundreds of overs a summer for Derbyshire, which allowed him to take 1246 wickets. Some were in favourable conditions, but plenty of times he had to work hard for them.

The public perception of Derbyshire has changed. The club's foresight in appointing Mickey Arthur has been a factor, the presence of a world-renowned coach at the club has lifted our image beyond doubt.

There will be dissenters, of course and that's fine. And I must stress my understanding is that things are not yet at the stage expressed by the Daily Mail. Bashir may yet go down as an unfulfilled talent, but in my book if the chance to sign an international player presents itself, surely it is an opportunity to grasp, a risk to take? 

It is something to keep an eye on. I don't foresee a midnight dash to a service station on the M5 to get his signature, nor necessarily expect that it will end with a photo of him in Derbyshire kit.

But...it's intriguing isn't it? 

And if Bashir ended up signing, a few days after Mickey Arthur said that his team building for red ball was complete, he has thrown a curve ball worthy of Sir Brian of Clough...

With that, I wish you all a very Merry Christmas and thank you for your input and support in 2025.

I will be back soon!

41 comments:

  1. Better than Morley so what not to like. Grant from Telford

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  2. Lets see, the facts are that he can't get in the Somerset side, was appalling for Glamorgan and has a first class average of 50. Played a bit for England but mostly poorly other than on ragging, turning decks abroad. Bowling on our road will surely go well...also a poor fielder and doesn't bat.

    Poor signing in my opinion, should just back Morley who has a much better record.

    Will hope he proves me wrong and will say I think his attitude is good.

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  3. It is also being reported that Ghazanfar is returning for the Blast. Which is fine, but it does leave our bowling looking similar to last season, bar Montgomery for Patel. Hopefully, Pat Brown can return from his operation, more like the 2024 version. Where this leaves Morley and Hawkins, I'm not sure. I assume another season of 50 over learning for the latter, with Bashir and Morley fighting it out for 4 day duty, providing Bashir isn't away with England, of course and actually signs. Kris

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    1. Hopefully Chris Wright can do what Ajmal Shahzad didn't, Kris. Hawkins isn't first team ready but he will play in the 50 over cup, at least. He is only 18 so has plenty of time on his side. Lots of bowling in the 2s in between times!

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    2. Re Ghazanfar - availability could be the issue. There is interest but he may only be available for part of the tournament. Same issue as Hasaranga tbh, the ever growing international calendar and franchise tournaments

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  4. Further down the same article it also said that we were hoping to re-engage Ghazanfar for the T20

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    1. Again we are interested, Simon. His availability may be the issue and a full tournament may be unlikely

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  5. We’ve just released Alex Thommson who was very tall and with a much better bowling average then bashir. If he really does demand a six figure wage and worst still we pay anywhere near it for a bang average off spinner I think it would be one of the worst signings the club has ever made

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    1. That's fine, Ian. It could go either way. But Alex was a decade older at 32 and hadn't made his county debut till he was 24. Not convinced he was going to get better. But Bashir could. He might not, but if the deal is right for Derbyshire, it will be fascinating to watch.

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  6. It may or may not come to pass but the possibility that Derbyshire sign a current England squad member is being reported shows that we are being taken seriously. This can only be good. I haven’t seen him play and his stats aren’t great but he is young enough to develop. Competition would also be good for Jack Morley.

    With the addition of Abbas the squad for 2026 was already looking strong. An exciting season to look forward to!

    Merry Christmas to all!

    Adrian, Nice

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  7. I wouldn’t welcome this move as long as obvious Financial package will be not enlightened with our previous budgets. I wouldn’t come close to making sacrifices on Blast overseas for him. My concern is that his agent will looking at a big deal playing off that he is England player. We all know that he very lucky to got the experience at test level. It’s not on merit more on potential. At that most it’s potential. We seen lots them players over the year that struggled in county game. Would this affect Morley progression?

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  8. I don't see this as a massive gamble. Year 1 is covered by his central contract. This could possibly extend to year 2, if he gets another one. Spinners don't tend to play a massive role in England. If it doesn't work out, we carry on with Abbas, Aitchison and Reece, Chappell, Haydon, etc. Kris

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  9. Tim, Chesterfield24 December 2025 at 16:02

    I'm not suggesting we pay him silly money on a long term deal (i.e 3+ years), but unless I'm mistaken our finances are in pretty good shape and if year 1 is effectively covered for the most part by the ECB it would seem a low risk gamble.

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  10. "......Derby, now one of the country’s bouncier venues for bowlers...."

    Really, when did this happen? Granted, there has on occasion been a bit of pace and carry, but it's been the exception rather than the norm. Not exactly the WACA is it! England didn't pick him there either!

    I feel sorry for the guy. He really needs a county contract. He would have benefited hugely from continuing to learn his craft at Taunton, but they understandably prefer Leach.

    If he's prepared to accept a 1 year contract at Derbyshire then I would be in favour. At this stage, I wouldn't be comfortable in a 2 year deal, with the potential costs involved.

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    1. I don't think the costs will be prohibitive and they could factor that into contract negotiations at the end of next year. There are excellent people on that board and we can be confident they won't jeopardise finances.

      I genuinely don't see the risk. He comes off, great, we have a top player. He doesn't, we could pull the plug in two years

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  11. I really like this idea as a signing. It seems Bashir is a good trainer (he was one of the three who went for the run in Noosa) which suggests a strong attitude. We're getting two years of an international spinner fo the price of one, surely, in the worst case scenario. Mickey Arthur comes in for a bit of stick at times, but surely the calibre of players we are signing or looking to sign are not coming to Derbyshire without his name on the ticket?

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    1. Exactly, Robert. And as a friend said to me the other day, when was the last time that a player, currently in the England reckoning, came to Derbyshire? Probably Phil de Freitas -and I can't think of anyone before or since

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    2. Ricky Clarke was on the fringe of England reckoning from memory. Also he took on the Derbyshire captaincy presumably to raise his profile.

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    3. I wondered about him, but he last played for England in 2006, was dropped by Surrey in 2007 and joined us in 2008. So he was out of the frame by then

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  12. Sorry. That’s from me, Robert

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  13. Couldn't agree more Robert. I'm with you. This shows aspiration and that we can interest good players. I'm intrigued and gives us reason to be positive, IF we choose to be

    Andy

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    1. Also, looking at a bigger picture, Andy, if 'little' Derbyshire can acquire and 'rehabilitate' a player with undoubted talent, isn't it a strong argument for the presence of 18 counties and the opportunity that they offer? I would go for it, as the money is clearly not a problem if we have got to this stage

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  14. Money shouldn’t be an issue he ought to be grateful that a county if offering him a contract, if he signs for Derbyshire he then needs to be picked and given the opportunity to bowl on pitches that are conducive, all this illustrates is another example of the utter shambles that English cricket has become in recent years , I’ve just watched the conclusion of the Melbourne Test, Bethel who top scored today and is clearly a very talented prospect hardly plays first class cricket he hasn’t even got a first class century, he needs to start playing regularly for Warwickshire if he’s serious about test cricket rather than swelling his bank account playing franchise cricket . The reaction after the game by the England players and commentators IMO was embarrassing England have just won a meaningless game after the Ashes have been retained by the Australian’s the commentary throughout the first four games on TNT has been at best amateurish and at at worst childish

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    1. Just got back to my hotel room in Melbourne after today’s win at the MCG. No match in the Ashes is ever meaningless irrespective of the score and this is backed up by the 25000 English fans over here and the disgruntlement of the locals at losing a test match to England. Test match cricket is still the pinnacle of the game and if you watched Jacob Bethell today you would never question how serious he is about test cricket. Also the desire shown by the Australian team to win this test would suggest they don’t consider this test to be meaningless.
      Paul

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  15. “The public perception of Derbyshire has changed” - I’m not convinced this comment is evidence based ?
    Sadly, but much more importantly, Derbyshire is still considered to rank alongside Northamptonshire and Leicestershire as the worst places to ply your trade as a professional cricketer. This is a sad reflection of location, ground and facilities and I cannot see any material changes being made to alter these perceptions. I know of 2 players who even decided to retire rather than extend their careers at these counties.

    Any ambitions that the club aspire to and to call themselves a first division County are delusional.

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    1. One has only to read comments on social media to see that. There is nothing wrong with the facilities at Derby. If there was, we wouldn't get regular women's international matches there. As for players retiring rather than play at these counties.. perhaps they didn't get an offer?

      And why couldn't we become a first division county? It only needs one more step from last year and the squad is undoubtedly stronger than the one that started 2025.

      We disagree. That's fine. But a lot of people are working very hard to make things happen and I applaud their efforts

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      Gave our opinions but that’s very negative in my view.
      We are one of the smaller first class counties but I we are trying to do things the right way and credit where it’s due with the extensions to contracts and signing during last season and over the winter.
      Nothing is guaranteed but I believe that ambition is being demonstrated.

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    3. Sorry for typo have not gave!

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  16. My money is on Leicestershire to finish above Yorkshire and Warks next season and long may that trend continue. Who wants to be like football, a closed shop? Kris

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    1. Yes that would be great and Notts relegated of course

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    2. One little reflection on events in Australia. Who is coming out of the series with reputation most enhanced? The player who played most county cricket last summer, Josh Tongue.
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    3. Yes, definitely Will. Which is something for people to consider, I think!

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    4. I’d love to see us sign Bashir. He’s clearly a great prospect and his central contract for 2026 gives us some financial cushion. It’s great that we are being linked with an England player, and at the right end of his career. I really hope it comes off!
      Andy T Cleckheaton

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    5. ...although I wouldn't get TOO enthusiastic about the Tongue point. The other player who played as many games as Tongue last season was...Pope, who it didn't seem to overly help! And where England would have been without Archer (two Championship games in seven seasons, in both of which his overs were restricted by the ECB), who conceded very nearly a run per over less than any of the other bowlers, I shudder to think.

      Dave

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  17. My county were linked with him mid season and everyone was dead against it. I understand the view about the profile and that he's an England player and how that boosts Derbyshire...but to me and many others he shouldn't be and never in a million years is an England player, quality wise, yet another hunch, middle finger up to county cricket, funky pick by stokes and mcullum, that has been shown to be a stupid policy (as tongues success shows)

    His county record would suggest as much and his England one too TBF, I can't think that any other English offie could have done worse had they been parachuted in and backed like he has been till now.

    I may be wrong and spinners get better with age experience but he simply doesn't look good enough. Jake Morley looks better and similar age and if you need another spinner and batting/fielding doesn't matter )bashir is poor at both) why not go for virdi, who actually showed a lot of talent at Surrey before being let go.

    I think the England aspect is clouding sound judgment on here.

    Still he cannot justify a high wage once his cc is not renewed so he shouldn't be a financial risk and he will provide attention at least. I just think he's a very very lucky to be anywhere near England or even county level and better players are overlooked.

    Anyway looking fwd to the blog for the next year hope you keep it up PF, and happy NY to you all .

    Essex fan

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    1. I think you are spot on Essex fan. I would add that should he prove successful for Derbyshire, England would simply have him back and Derbyshire would hardly see him again.

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    2. Having watched Atherton and Hussain’ s podcast on YouTube today it’s clear the whole England setup is broken, Hussain passionately defending franchise cricket arguing why should Bethel come home early from the IPL to play red ball cricket with the amount of money he’s earning playing IPL , apparently from next season onwards while the 100 is taking place the ECB has no power to withdraw a player from the tournament, the English game is being consumed by its own greed

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  18. I'm not being flippant, but has this been reported anywhere decent or just the Daily Fail? if not it does indeed smack of an agent chucking a pebble in the water. DM.

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  19. Also reported in The Wisden. Good enough for you ?

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    1. To be fair I think they quoted it as 'The Daily Mail' so you pay your money...

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