He has made a good career in the media after playing for a number of years as a bit-part player at Middlesex. He had his days in the sun but never established himself as a regular and moved to Durham before slipping into the media.
This weekend he said:
You question the raison d'etre of a club like Derbyshire... with a perennial position in the nether regions of Division Two and who haven't produced an England cricketer since Dominic Cork in 1995
For Hughes read Atherton and Pietersen. They were all happy enough to earn a crust in the first class game, but are now happy to question the existence of the member clubs who made their career.
I do get it, but it still annoys me. This is why I am so keen to see Derbyshire promote their own. Why I want to see the Pathway more obviously assimilated into the grand plan. Why I see no point in giving a short-term deal to a player who learned his skills elsewhere, rather than that opportunity going to one who has come through our age groups. You know who I am talking about..
But Hughes, like the others, neglects the fact that there is another side. Having more clubs ensures that late developers can sometimes throw themselves into contention for national selection. Mark Footitt came close, Nye Donald, George Scrimshaw and Shoaib Bashir made it, thanks to the experience and exposure that they got in Derbyshire colours.
There were no takers for Bashir when he left Somerset. Had Derbyshire not taken him on, we would potentially have seen England 's number one spin bowler without a club. Of course, we don't know what happens with his central contract for the year ahead and a new decision will need to be made at the end of 2027, regardless of whether he retains it or not. I suspect he will need better figures than 2026, but we will see.
He is a young man with obvious talent yet needing the opportunity to bowl and keep bowling. The same with Nye Donald, who could easily be outside the game now, were it not for the opportunity he got in the East Midlands.
It isn't JUST about bringing through youngsters, but for Derbyshire to retain their relevance, it is imperative that we do more than merely pay lip service to the Pathway.
There is the quandary. In Mickey Arthur, we have a man who sits at the top table of English cricket and is well-placed to state the case of players like Bashir, Donald, maybe even Martin Andersson, if his upward trajectory continues.
But his background shows zero evidence of the development of young players. You look at Glamorgan, Leicestershire, Worcestershire and even Gloucestershire and see counties who have had recent success with teams largely reared by themselves. Yet Derbyshire can't match that and until we have a Head of Cricket who is prepared to offer opportunity, my concerns will still be there.
Of course, you can't just throw them in. You couldn't pluck Theo Brown out of school and expect him to flourish, any more than you could play Matt Stewart and expect him to take five wickets a match. To succeed, they need to come into a side where they can play a part and learn at the same time. But it is crucial that Arthur - assuming he remains after recent events - is seen to consider them for senior action.
Yousaf Bin Naeem will only develop if he gets regular cricket at a higher level. And I will die on the hill on which I argue Matt Stewart being around the first team squad would have had greater value long term than Will Rogers providing 'a different angle'.
When Arthur goes, it is crucial that he is replaced by someone who has clear evidence of being able to work with young players, get the best from them and encourage them into a senior side where they are surrounded by seasoned pros of quality. Like Barnett, Adams and Morris, when they joined people like Steele, Hampshire, Wright and Kirsten.
Hughes' article goes on to say that counties earn 'on average' £1.25 million a year on membership fees. I think it is fair to say that Derbyshire would love to earn that...
In other news, The Cricket Paper reported:
Wayne Madsen's retirement from T20 cricket was followed by his departure from the professional game, closing a 17-year Derbyshire association
Thank you to Simon for alerting me to this. I can confirm that there is no truth in it at this stage and any development will be announced by the club when they are ready to do so.
For what it is worth, I fully expect Wayne to play the red ball season next summer, which may well be an extended farewell around the country.
But that old saying 'you're a long time retired' still holds true and if he showed that the old magic is still there, you never know. Just like Old Man River, he might just keep rolling along.
I am sure that he will want to join his family in South Africa before too long, but while the body is willing and the returns are good...
Anyway, enjoy your weeks and I will see you soon.
Strange that the likes of pocketgate cheat Atherton, the stage "northerner" who has probably lived in Hampstead for thirty years and South African mercenary Pietersen (even Bob Willis years ago) never mention that the likes of Lancashire and Middlesex, with all their resources, have been languishing even closer to the bottom of Division 2 for years, so too Notts. until recently when they suddenly became Worcestershire Second XI. Some "commentators" won't be happy until the only county cricket is Surrey v Surrey Seconds played on a loop - Manchester City/Arsenal syndrome.
ReplyDeletePoint of order, Middlesex have 0 resources they are a hostage to not owning a ground.
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During the Dean Jones era Simon Hughes was a regular face at the county ground in his capacity as a journalist
ReplyDeleteVery very sad when you get someone like Hughes ( who I normally like) and Agnew in the past who were really nothing more then county trundles criticising teams like Derbyshire or any over small club. I never really get the England argument surely there’s enough counties producing England players. A lot of people love county cricket and 18 teams spread between all of England and Wales surely isn’t too many. I obviously agree though that Derbyshire should be producing more of their own young players and Arthur must be one of the worst ever coaches at giving younger players a chance. The decision to release Hawkins at the age of 19 is a perfect example. Surely a player who recently played for the England under 19s and took 7 for 60 in his last second team game deserved at least a couple more years to show what he could do. The county championship would lose so much without the so called smaller counties involvement. It’s really what makes the championship great. If there were other minor counties who wanted to step up to first class cricket I could slightly see the argument the Derbyshire might deserve to be a contender to drop out especially at the moment but luckily I don’t think any of the minor counties are keen to step up and the championship needs at least 18 counties to give poorer players like Hughes and Agnew a chance to make a living and for more people who love cricket to be able to watch without travelling At least 50 miles
ReplyDeleteIt's quite something when you get these people who managed to make their living from the game and continue to do so, who want nothing more than to shrink the professional game they benefited from.
ReplyDeleteFor players to lose their livelihoods, for fans to lose their clubs, to basically kill cricket for many people in whole counties, to have less kids able to go and watch the sport at professional level and to be inspired. For less games and even less opposition for the bigger teams.
If you like cricket you should want to grow the game, maybe even improve the standard of the hideously treated and disregarded minor counties or put money into getting cricket into state schools. There could be an argument made that some of our ECB funding would be better spent doing that, it's at least an idea but there isn't an argument that giving that money to Surrey or Lancashire would benefit the test side in my opinion. It is a boring and tiresome idea that someone trots out every now and again though. Always, always grow the base if you want a higher peak to the pyramid, don't shrink it. Obviously really.
As soon as I hear such nonsense from someone you know to disregard anything else they say. And it's all supposedly in aid of saving the England cricket team. It's not the appalling management of the game via the ECB and the various morons running it that's the issue according to these people, it's somehow the smaller club's fault. The blunderers who created the Hundred and then proceeded to sell English cricket's soul to foreign investors who care about nought but making money and certainly not English cricket. The fools who took test cricket off terrestrial tv 20 years ago.
Many just don't want cricket played outside of public schools and test grounds. Some are just looking to line their own pockets. None of them care about English cricket.
Hamez i endorse everything you say!
DeleteVery true Hamez. All the talk about growing the game is nonsense. The only interest they have is money nothing else. The sandford thing years ago proved that. Test cricket is now at its lowest point for years with teams like West Indies and Sri Lanka hardly playing . The West Indies very test future is in serious doubt.I think the ECB would love only 7 or 8 4 day games a summer and less county teams and still pretend they are growing the game. The money might pile in but in say 10 years the only cricket left will be the 3 hour stuff for people with short attention spans. So for a lot of us who love the traditional form it won’t even really be the same game anymore
ReplyDeleteDidn’t Boyd Rankin start at Derbyshire and play for England? Dre.
ReplyDeleteHe started in Ireland and was signed from there by Derbyshire but wasn't an academy product. And he played for England after he left us anyway, before returning to play for Ireland
DeleteBoyd Rankin didn’t come through the academy, but neither did Dominic Cork.
DeleteAccording to the Independentnewspaper article, "The Rise of Dominic Cork," he was spotted playing for Betley Cricket Club by Alan Hill on the recommendation of Bob Taylor. Both players were given their breaks in county cricket by Derbyshire, although they first played for Ireland and Betley Cricket Club, respectively.
For me, the idea that a county cricket club "produces" a player is nonsense anyway. How many other players who appeared for both a county and England were spotted playing for other clubs?
Before the era of the academy—but also after Cork's time—Ian Blackwell played for Derbyshire and England. However, he didn’t make his international debut until he was at Somerset.
Like most other smaller clubs, Derbyshire now struggle to hold on to their most talented players.
Sorry if this sounds a bit blunt.
Dre.
It is an interesting question “what is the point of a county cricket club?”
ReplyDeleteFor me the answer is to provide entertainment for the local population. Nothing else. This entertainment could come via watching, following, playing, scoring or whatever. If the team is successful then it is more likely to be providing good entertainment, but entertainment remains the main, indeed sole, purpose.
People trying to state that you need to be producing players for England is just them trying to enforce a goal that is non-existent.
MarkB
Sounds like a mix of arrogance and ignorance
ReplyDeleteMark Nicholas said something similar a while back. I think it is part of the has beens, now in the media, trying to stay relevant. I just ignore the rubbish. Grant from Telford
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