Friday, 1 August 2025

Thoughts on Arthur and recruitment

'I think our bowling needs some serious looking at and I have to be brutally honest when I watch us. We are an ageing team, slow in the field in most positions and slow between the wickets. That's not the brand of cricket I like. 

We gave it a good go with the players we had, but we'll turn it over now and for me it's about bringing in younger players, perhaps taking a bit of pain for a year or two, in order to build a really good young team'

So speaks Mickey Arthur in the latest issue of The Cricketer magazine. I am probably not the only one a little confused and not for the first time during his tenure.

This IS his team. He told us when he joined the club 'Judge me when I have my team' and we all assumed he had it by now, in year three, with the drastic overhaul of playing staff. His words suggest he is here (or plans to be) for the long haul, but is this cricket management by the unscientific process of 'throw enough mud at the wall and some of it will stick'?

This 'ageing team' was largely signed, or re-signed by Mickey and he has to own that. My wife wouldn't profess to be a cricketing sage, but when I told her we would have two blokes over 40 in our T20 side, her first words were 'but won't they be a bit slow'? Maybe she and I should take over, the Clough and Taylor of Derbyshire cricket...

Supporters will now be watching the said overhaul of Derbyshire cricket with even keener eyes. If we replace over-thirties with more of the same, there will rightly be questions asked. Of course you need experience in a side, but someone has to do the legwork and you can't hide them all in the field. Signing talented young men with reputations to build is a decent start - Amrit Basra and Rory Haydon being prime examples.

I have seen names tossed around as potential signings - Billy Root, Jonny Tattersall, Nick Browne, Chris Rushworth as examples. But would they transform us? Or have long term potential? Good cricketers all, but for me there is greater mileage in looking at players like Ben Martindale or Sam King at Nottinghamshire or Harry Singh at Lancashire. I don't see where Rocky Flintoff gets game time at Lancashire either, while Tom Aspinwall might be pushed further down the line with the possible signing of Ajeet Singh Dale.

Here's another comment from Arthur:

"Our pathway is consistently producing exciting talents, and we want to bring those players into the first team environment, to give them the best possible chance of succeeding in professional cricket with Derbyshire."

Of course we need to promote the best of the Pathway, but by the same token we cannot simply elevate four or five talented under-18s and expect them to become the cricketing equivalent of the Busby Babes. Their step to sustained second eleven performance is big, that up to the first team much bigger.

As a sage old professional said to me, you might score runs or take wickets in the second team against experienced players. Yet they are finding form and rhythm, not going flat out and not providing the pressure of the senior game. Joe Hawkins is a terrific young player, but figures at Northampton of 2-171 in 39 overs will show him how far he has to go. To be fair to him, he will have rarely bowled more than ten overs in an innings, so he probably poured himself into bed last night, after the physical and mental effort.

What has really surprised me this summer is the nigh complete falling off of a side that before the T20 was going very well. That they have largely battled is beyond doubt, but our unbeaten record was built around commendable rearguard efforts and a fair few of those draws would not be classed as 'winning' ones in the league cricket that I played.

We haven't helped ourselves by muddled preparation. After losing to Leicestershire, Arthur said he felt our best chance of beating them was by preparing a spinning pitch. Which doesn't say a lot for Blair Tickner or the chances of him returning, but says even less about the support he has had from pitch preparation. 

It was the same for the Blast...we had an overseas spinner, Mohammad Ghazanfar, from the white ball team of the year, together with an experienced international spinner as captain, yet never played to that obvious strength. I don't recall much deviating off straight at Derby, which would seem a fairly major oversight. If I had two such bowlers in my team, I would ensure the pitches were just on the acceptable side of Blackpool beach..

Having signed Caleb Jewell for next summer, Arthur has to split the second role AND order pitches to suit them. A seamer for the first batch of red ball, a spinner for the second, an all rounder for the Blast. Sure, it is nice to have someone there all summer, but Northamptonshire got it right by signing Chahal for this part of the summer. Surely that famous contacts book can unearth a decent spinner in Asia? You would hope a good seamer shouldn't be a challenge either, but he has to have early season pitches that offer something to work with. As for the T20, a bowler who can hit a long ball has to be the target. If the rumoured signing of Matt Montgomery comes through, a top five of Donald, Jewell, Madsen, Montgomery and Basra (hopefully) would surely get runs on the board? 

Clarity of thought - and feel free to disagree if you will - is all important. That is in-game too. I fully understand why Zak Chappell opened yesterday, but using Joe Hawkins as a night watchman means that it is likely our first innings century-maker, Martin Andersson, won't bat until number nine. Assuming they get on the pitch today.

There have been countless examples of muddled messages and thinking this year and that is the concern. 'My team' mark one hasn't worked. Supporters have a right to be sceptical if mark two is going to be any better.  Maybe it is worth seeing where it goes for next year, not least because recruitment has to start again if we don't. Players will have agreed to come by this stage and plans for the best of our young talent to come onto the staff will be advanced. 

But he has to get it right. Not least because the questions over coaching style will again raise their heads if he doesn't and, to use the Glasgow vernacular, his jaiket will be on a shoogly hook if he doesn't.

It has to be.

11 comments:

  1. I've never heard the coach ever take responsibility for a thing. It's always the players who are at fault never him. He's incapable of admitting he got it wrong. It doesn't help when he faces no criticism from anyone at the club. He can do as he pleases. They all seem in awe of him for some reason

    Rob

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    1. What Rob said. Grant from Telford

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  2. The litany of baffling comments and decisions continues to mount.

    Andersson a batter with 3 tons this season in at 9...

    Arthur needs to go at the end of the season. Some will say we can't afford to pay him off but I'd contend that we can't afford not to.

    The reality is that we've got an unexpected windfall on the horizon courtesy of the Hundred so for the first time in a long time the clubs short term financial future isn't a concern. We don't have debts to pay off so can invest in our infrastructure etc and we can also cover the cost of getting rid of MA before he writes off another season. They can get that through the books however they want, if it results in a small loss in the next accounts it doesn't matter.

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  3. I’ve been somewhat alarmed by some of his recent comments where it seems he thinks that he is beginning another new ‘project’ with the club. We’ve been here before and we’ve heard all this before. It certainly suggests that he thinks he will be around longer than he is currently contracted for but I would hope the powers that be will think very carefully before offering another extension.

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  4. When are Morgan and Duckett going to do something about it ? You never hear from either of them. It was their farcical decision to give MA an extension to his contract. Based on what ? I don't listen to MA's interviews anymore. It's always the SOS (and that stands for Same Old Sh**)

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  5. Clough and Taylor of Cricket

    Does that mean you will end up falling out with the Derby board after bringing success, spend 44 days in Leeds before making Nottingham the best team in the country ?

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    1. Spend 44 days in Leeds? I went there for the day when I was looking at unis and what I saw that day was enough...

      And I could never go down Brian Clough Way, even if I did it the Brian Clough way..😉

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  6. Ian from Suffolk1 August 2025 at 19:11

    They really are amazing comments from Arthur. They are the comments of someone whose been sitting on the sidelines watching but having no say in anything. He’s had ages to slowly put a few younger players in but never seems to do so unless injuries force him to. It really has looked at times in the Leicestershire match and again on day 3 that we have little or no gameplan and give up quite easily in the field..unless you see what goes on behind the scenes it’s probably hard to tell what the players think of him but from the outside it really does look that some days far less then 100 percent is being given by quite a substantial amount of the team

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  7. Tim, Chesterfield1 August 2025 at 19:48

    But Mickey, we were led to believe we'd already had 'the pain'!

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  8. It is clear to the majority of Derbyshire supporters that MA is the problem and not the solution.
    What he says and what he does are 2 different things.
    The very idea that he thinks that he is starting a new project sends shivers down my spine.
    MA, just go!

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  9. This is now Mickey”s team in both player and coach personnel and I would expect a full appraisal of recruitments ,player development and team results .I struggle with his interviews and reflection as it all feels 3rd party but he’s the Head of Cricket !

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