Wednesday 11 October 2023

Recruitment impressive

Well, Samit's in, following on from David, Pat, Mohammad and Aneurin. Things are shaping up nicely, eh? 

So much so that it is very hard to pick a first choice side, especially when we still have, theoretically, player number 7 and the second overseas player still to come in.

I am struggling to figure out the role of that second import.

Mickey has said, in the not too distant past, that both overseas players would be bowlers. Yet yesterday he said that Samit Patel could play some four day cricket if conditions warranted a second spinner. Which would seem to rule out signing someone who is primarily a purveyor of twirly stuff. Unless he is throwing us off the scent...

A seam bowler perhaps? Maybe, but with Amir in the squad already, a second would mean only one from Chappell/Conners/Aitchison/Brown/Potts in each game. With Reece, Dal and Lloyd all able to bowl, picking four specialists would be overkill, don't you think? 

Perhaps a change of mind, bringing in a batter? I watched Abdullah Shafique yesterday and thought what a talent he is, but Reece and Came seem to be secure 'up top'. With Guest at three, Madsen four, Lloyd (presumably) at five and Donald, Wagstaff and Lamb fighting for six ahead of Dal at seven, it seems overkill, perhaps? 

My gut feeling is that we are missing, especially for T20, either another all rounder or a specialist spinner, maybe a leggie. Early season conditions in England are not often conducive to wrist spin, but a good one will always puzzle batters and get them out. Jeevan Mendis did a pretty good job in the early summer a few years back, but leggies are often hugely successful in T20 too. Might it be the missing link on Derby wickets? 

One other thought on the signing of Samit Patel. I don't see his age, 38, being a major issue. There are a number of Derbyshire signings in my time at the club who were advanced in their playing careers but did a stellar job. As Jasper pointed out in the comments of the last piece, Barry Wood is one example, so too Dean Jones, John Hampshire, Phil Sharpe and Ron Headley. 

The great Eddie Barlow was 36 when he joined Derbyshire and was still a magnificent cricketer. Going back further, Garnet Lee was also 36 when he too moved from Trent Bridge and gave wonderful service as batter and spinner. Because he had to spend two summers qualifying at that time, he too made his county debut at 38, but remarkably played for another eight seasons!

Samit has never been a greyhound, but he has been a terrific cricketer. I liked the words he spoke on the club site and the confidence that Mickey Arthur has that he has signed to 'make a difference'.

I am quite enthused with the winter recruitment so far.

And if isn't finished yet..

15 comments:

  1. Good signings so far ,my preference would be an overseas strike bowler as we struggled all season to take 20 wickets and it cost us at least 3 wins in the Championship ….

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  2. The signing certainly strengthened the white ball team significantly. We need to do good rotation players. The potential for injuries would be big concern for 2024 season as we have lot players that got past medical history. Think that be key in red ball not overloading too early in season. How much red ball has likes of Amir, Brown, Lloyd and lamb played in 2023? Players can bounce back from injuries. It’s nice to see that Stanlake returned back for Tasmania in last month. If you get overload wrong like Reece and Conners it takes long time to see them back at their best. They did manage Reece and Conners better in 2023 compared to previous years.

    I think might be tempted to look at oversea batsman for the blast and play them at 3. If Ali has a good winter that be sensible option but currently he is struggling for form.

    Lloyd
    Came
    Overseas
    Madsen
    Donald
    Guest
    Patel
    Thomson
    Brown
    Chappell
    Amir

    My suggestion for blast

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  3. For the last few years I've hoped that a competitive Derbyshire season would provide some respite from the issues with Derby County but it's not quite worked out like that. I am now quite excited for next season and will be looking out for the fixtures (a trip to Arundel would be nice).

    I just hope that Pakistan don't take the Mickey too much next year.

    Paul (Pride Park)

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  4. Chesterfield Blue12 October 2023 at 21:42

    Could we not entice Quenten De Cock to join us next season for a Bakewell pudding or something. I reckon he'd get a starting spot?

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    1. QDK would be some signing. Perhaps also make us the first team to field 3 keepers!

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    2. .....let us just hope our media team ensure the correct spelling, when announcing his arrival!

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    3. Sorry Peakfan, but Lancs have easily managed that this season, with Salt, Bell, Hurst, Lavelle and Vilas all on the books as keepers and Steven Croft having taken the gloves before now. Plus that big lad from Taunton who is at least on paper contracted to Lancashire. And at least on paper a keeper! Explains why we so blithely let Brooke Guest go. I don't think anyone at Lancs even knows who our first choice keeper actually is (for me, Lavelle is the best with the gloves for what it's worth, and that may be significant as he's not getting games and it wouldn't surprise me if he looked elsewhere)

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    4. Yeah my reply was tongue in cheek, because I cannot see any county persuading QDK to play T20, given his workload.

      Donald works as he is very capable of playing as a specialist bat, which he likely will do. But the difference between budgets at Derbyshire and Lancashire is vast. We couldn't carry the size of staff that they do, even though 3 or 4 of those named could also play as batting specialists

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  5. We had 3 keepers not so long ago - Husein, Wilson, Smit.

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    1. We did, but I don't think all three played the same match, which theoretically all of those would!

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  6. Chesterfield blue14 October 2023 at 16:16

    Sorry to go off tangent a bit here but who is everybody fancying for the World Cup?. I was going to go for New Zealand but losing Williamson is going to be a huge blow for them, India it is then after their demolition of Pakistan. Don't rule England out of things though

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  7. Had my £20 on South Africa. Surely they can't self destruct again?

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  8. Hearing a certain Ross whiteley is joining Derbyshire. Anyone heard that?

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    1. Heard it a few weeks back, Joe, but it has gone quiet since then. He is contracted to the end of next year and will not lack offers if he wanted away.

      I have filed that under 'great if it happens, but unlikely'. If he turned out to be player 7 there would be few complaints, especially for white ball.

      But he could play all formats here, which at his age he needs to be doing, surely?

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