Saturday, 7 June 2025

Red ball gold, white ball blues..

After a remarkable two-month hiatus, the barbs are back out with a vengeance on social media. 

The success in red ball cricket so far this summer has perhaps given false expectation for the white ball competitions. 

The red ball cricket has been characterised by a clear game plan, a team that is well aware of individual roles, strong team spirit, excellent catching and intuitive captaincy. Everything, in fact, that is diametrically opposed to what I have seen in the white ball team. 

I think the major reason for frustration is that it has been patently clear that the focus of recruitment has been for success in the Vitality Blast. Samit Patel, Ross Whiteley, Pat Brown, Nye Donald, Mohammad Ghazanfar.. these are all players whose reputation within the game has been largely built on the short format. I accept Samit has had a long and successful career in all forms of the game, but the point still holds. 

It is still possible for Derbyshire to qualify for the knockout stage. But then it is still possible for me to become world light heavyweight boxing champion. I tend to be optimistic, but also realistic and I cannot see eight wins from the next eleven games. Especially when two of them will be against a Lancashire side that will likely have Buttler, Livingstone, Salt and Mahmood restored to it. Not to mention one at Durham, where our record of success hardly precedes us.

So where has it gone wrong?

Team selection hasn't helped. Nor has injury. Nye Donald had little cricket before he was tasked the dual role of leading our batting effort, as well as that in the field. I don't think it was sensible or fair and it was no coincidence that, shorn of one of those responsibilities, there was a return to form with the bat last night. The frustration, as it always is with Nye, is that once he presses the green button there is no safety valve. He has the measure of the quicks, why bother to size up what the spinners can do? He had 50 in six overs, striking the ball as cleanly as anyone has ever done in Derbyshire colours. A hundred was there for the taking, but sometimes you need to come down a gear or two, reappraise the situation.

Being honest, I remain to be convinced that we upgraded in swapping Tom Wood for Nye and I will go to my grave convinced Tom got a raw deal from the county. If we were in the business of handing out white ball contracts, he could and should have got one.

Despite his innings against Northamptonshire, Samit is batting too high. He is another who only has one way of playing now. For all the brilliance of his hitting in that match, let's not forget he could easily have been out a couple of times before he got going. He, more than anyone should know you can play aggressive cricket without trying to hit every ball to Chatsworth..

Conversely, Ross Whiteley is too low. He has looked in good touch and the problem is his reputation as a big-hitting finisher. Why not give him more time at the crease, so when he does it, his eye is in, or maybe doesn't need to try to turn a sow's ear of an innings into a silk purse?

David Lloyd is too high, maybe lucky to be in the side. He hasn't got many runs behind him, isn't one of the faster fielders and isn't often likely to bowl in this format. To pluck a name at random - there is another, later - Mitch Wagstaff bowls spin, would score no fewer runs and would be an asset in the field. 

Brooke Guest hasn't been playing. The first warning bells sounded for me when we went into the competition with a mystery spinner and a part-time wicketkeeper. It was ill-thought and detrimental to the fielding, which Brooke leads by example. If I was picking a Derbyshire side this season, I would insert Jewell, Madsen and Guest, then fit the rest around them.

Talented as he clearly is, I was always wary of placing too much responsibility on the shoulders of Mohammad Ghazanfar. Can you expect a 19-year old to lead your attack? Would we have similar expectations of Harry Moore? His absence has been felt, although at least one of the few positives has been the emergence of Ben Aitchison in the format.

Not that this should be a surprise. Ben can bowl a line and length better than any seamer in the club. The virtues of doing so are regularly highlighted, no more so than by the admirable Ben Sanderson against Worcestershire last night. 6-8 were his figures, because he puts the ball in the right place on a regular basis. If Ben Aitchison's back holds strong, he becomes another first name on team sheet for me.

Ghazanfar has emerged into a strong Afghanistan side where he can blend with others and perhaps go under the radar. Here, tasked with opening the bowling, he has tended to drop short, seemingly bowl quicker and struggled with his approach. Spinners shouldn't bowl no balls and he did last night, also stopping in his run up a couple of times. He also seems nervous in the field - who wouldn't be, thrust into that level of responsibility at such a tender age? 

We are also missing Blair Tickner on the field. He is fascinating to listen to in the commentary box and I have no doubt his sage counsel to Wayne Madsen is a factor in our red ball success. He is also prepared to mix it with the opposition and that kind of bullishness carries along teammates.

Finally, the effectiveness of Zak Chappell and Pat Brown has been considerably reduced. I don't think Zak has looked at his best all summer with the ball, while Pat, having been used as a strike bowler in red ball cricket, appears to have lost the variations that made him so good with a white ball. His line and length have been awry and he must have set some kind of unwanted record by twice conceding the winning runs so far with a wide.

That's all without mentioning the absence of Luis Reece. They may indeed be resting his hamstring, conscious of how important he has been to the red ball team with bat and ball. But he would have been another left-hander and a good bowling option, as befits a bloke top of both averages in the longer form of the game. He has been a talisman this year and a pre-tournament interview in The Cricketer suggested that he hoped to be involved in this competition. 

Finally, the captaincy. There is so much more to this role than merely putting a different bowler on at either end. That's why the number of good captains are rare. I think Samit Patel has been a very fine cricketer, but I haven't seen anything in his captaincy to make me think he was wrongly overlooked for this key role. Perhaps his swapping Ghazanfar from end to end hasn't helped a young lad a long way from home and I just get the impression that in Samit Patel and Mickey Arthur we have two strong individuals, not necessarily always on the same page. 

Is it any surprise that we have disappointed? Yet a side that is stronger than the sum of its constituent parts has been outstanding in four-day cricket. There has been a clear game plan, total focus and an eleven that has battled for one another to a man. 

Maybe it is unrealistic to expect a relatively small squad to compete on all fronts. Yet the area of perceived lesser investment has been the success.

Lessons to be learned, for sure.

29 comments:

  1. Agree with many but not all of your observations here Peakfan. But what an intersting and detailed post. Just on that front, you deserve acknowledgment.

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    1. Thanks Ray. Talking points, all of them. I wouldn't expect anyone to agree with them all, any more than I agree with everything others may say.

      But mitigating circumstances? In many cases, I think so

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  2. That is a tremendous assessment. 👏 I only disagree with one minor point.

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  3. Excellent analysis, Steve. The batting needs rejigging. Whiteley needs to go up the order, and I'd try Wagstaff or Andersson as an opener. I'd keep Donald as an opener, as he delivered the goods last night, although, as he said afterwards, he should have pushed for a century. Patel needs to drop down the order.

    Our bowling attack is underperforming. My concern about Brown is that is confidence might be rattled. He's conceded 115 runs in the three games and taken just one wicket. One part of me thinks he will come good against Warwickshire, but another part of me thinks he won't. If Reece is fit, then maybe bring him in for Brown.

    Despite losing our forts three games, we're not out of it. A win tomorrow would put is back in the competition.

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  4. Thanks for your excellent summary Steve. I'm still.not sure whether our main problem is our batting or our bowling but on balance I'd go for the latter. As you say, both Chappell and Brown have looked seriously below par, which leads me to ask an important question: when can we expect to see Harry Moore back in the Derbyshire team and is it possible to have an update on the fitness of Tickner and Reece? The inclusion of all three in our T20 team could make a huge difference.

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    1. Tickner was on the radio last night and was saying that he would be fully fit to play after this weekend. But as we can only play two overseas (I believe that is the rule) that would mean leaving Caleb Jewell out.

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    2. Yes, I think Tickner will play a game or two but only on pitches that less suit Ghazanfar. I can't see Jewell omitted, unless we have an injury crisis among the bowlers

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  5. If we are being honest, we aren't that great a 4 day side without Reece, as Manchester proved. I'd also be willing to admit that Reece isn't the T20 dasher of a few years ago. The really strange one is Anuj Dal. Slow Derby wickets and an excellent fielder. Kris

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  6. Great post Steve as always. Really thoughtful and perceptive. I’d like to see Dal in the team. Quality batter, bowler and fielder. Guest should certainly be in but I do like Donald - seems a really good bloke and, as you say, he really can hit it! I’m less convinced by Samit if I’m being honest. His best days do seem to be behind him, although I really hope he proves me wrong. Anyway I’ve bought tickets for Nottingham and Birmingham (v Leicestershire) next Fri/Sat so let’s see! I’ve got a feeling it’s not over yet….
    Andy T Cleckheaton

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  7. As someone who repeatedly says personal criticism is unacceptable and then repeatedly proceeds to do exactly that I am curious to know what exactly is your definition of personal criticism. All criticism by definition is personal it can't possibly be anything else. It really is the height of hypocrisy to suggest anything else. May I suggest peakfan you practice what you preach and drop your self supioror arrogance. I'm not holding my breath through.

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    1. I would have had more respect for this comment had the very obvious name been appended...

      You clearly don't know me and, ironically, have managed to self-define personal criticism.

      What I offer is constructive criticism, with a view to the side and individuals getting better. I don't say 'player X is rubbish'. I might say he is in a bad trot, or make observations on where I think things are going wrong.

      I would like to think I have never had 'self superior arrogance'. In 18 years no player or family member has taken exception to what I have written.

      If you don't like it, there is a very easy solution..

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    2. "Anonymous" - there is a world of difference between "personal criticism" and the constructive comments that Peakfan includes on his excellent blog. If you can't grasp that fundamental fact I suggest youu keep your own comments to yourself. As for "self superior arrogance" (please note correct spelling) I haven't a clue what you are talking about.

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    3. Thank you, Chapel Guy!

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  8. It’s a really good analysis.

    My opinion is that for a team to be successful you have a very good captain and man manger. Is it coincidence that red ball under Madsen leadership is doing well?

    Patel is a fantastic cricketer. He showed it on Wednesday night. I think the combination of big personality and connection with Nottingham will always make difficult to win people over. We all know his heart Nottingham through and through he has had an amazing career there. I just don’t think he a good fit to lead the team. Personally would stick with Madsen as think he has ability to get best out of the players. I think change leadership can make a difference look at Lancashire.

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    1. “My opinion is that for a team to be successful you have a very good captain and man manger. Is it coincidence that red ball under Madsen leadership is doing well?”

      Spot on. I’m convinced the championship form is more down to WM than MA. Has anyone else noticed MA is suddenly appearing for interviews when we win again, but reverting to type and is normally nowhere to be seen when we lose, throwing players out there to face the media.

      Personally, I’ve never had the pleasure of meeting Wayne but - based on what I see of him online etc - I’d run through a brick wall for him. I’m sure the players would too. I can’t say the same of MA from what I’ve seen.

      He’s spent three years recruiting for the Blast and now here we are, zero from four. Not good enough unfortunately.

      Chris in Shropshire

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  9. Hudson- Prentice looks like a good inclusion for today. Hopefully a good addition

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  10. Interesting news on the H-P loan. Personally if it is part of a plan to something more permanent then I think it is a good move. However if it remains a 4 game loan spell I really do not see the point. We are close to being out & have Potts & Dal on the books. Potts was good enough to start our first game, bowled 1 over & have we now given up on him.

    MarkB

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  11. Having read the thread in more depth I disagree with quite a few of the points, but I guess thats the point of this blog. The most obvious one being , "I remain to be convinced that we upgraded in swapping Tom Wood for Nye" which imo is a ridiculous viewpoint. I also think Guest, although being good in the other 2 formats is not really a T20 player and we cannot afford in this format to play 2 wicketkeepers or to score at the rate he scores with our current problems falling well short of 200.
    Hudson Prentice is potentially a great boost to the area we have struggled most in and has been primarily responsible for our failure to record a win.
    Samits injury also gives Thompson a chance to come in, hopefully he can grab it with both hands.
    Surprise win this afternoon hopefully

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    1. No opinion is 'ridiculous' on here, John. People are entitled to think what they wish, as long as expressed without personal insult...

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    2. I didnt realise "ridiculous" was a personal insult if it is deemed to be that I apologise and will choose my words more carefully in future. My point was that T20 is very much about strike rates. Nye is by some margin Derbyshires fastest T20 scoring player of all time with a scoring rate of 192.45 per 100 Balls. The next best in the current squad is Jewell on 151.92. Tom Wood for comparison scored at 140.67 still ranked just in the top 10 Derbyshire T20 strike rates but in a different planet to Nyes. Donald averages only 29.14 which i am sure we would all like to see that pushed up to 35 or more but only Wayne who averages 32.62 has a higher batting average in the current squad. Donald and Wood had 2 completely different roles with Nye charged with opening the batting and getting us off to a big start in the all important powerplay. Tom was not in that role (unless my memory fails me) The Derbyshire T20 stats are from https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/team/batting-most-runs-career/derbyshire-955/twenty20-matches-6

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    3. I would never call anyone's opinion 'ridiculous' John. They have it, and it is valid for them. When Nye has made more big scores I will be happy to change it, but until then will stick with my assertion..

      Of course, I factor in the respective cost of the players concerned, too

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  12. I am sure that certain contributors on this thread have no inkling as to how fortunate they are to have your blog, Steve. As usual you have dealt with it in a discrete and polite way and I ,for one sincerely hope you continue exactly as you are doing.

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    1. Thank you, Ray. I very much appreciate your kind words

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    2. PEAKFAN has enliven my week now for at least 1o years
      I heartily endorse your comments Ray !

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  13. As John states above Donald has a strike rate of 190+ per 100 balls which looks good. However a player who hits his first ball for 4 and is then out second ball has a strike rate of 200. Statistics eh ? Donald is unfortunately more miss than hit in my opinion and gets himself out to some terrible shots. Friday was a prime example. Some great strokes followed by a thoughtless slog at the spinner.

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  14. There are ways of speaking to and of disagreeing with people

    If you're not prepared to show a name and be up front about who you are, then social media might not be for you. If you wish to 'play' that way then perhaps join another one about DCCC where, it appears, endless keyboard criticism finds a more comfortable home

    Integrity should not be optional, nor should basic civility.

    Andy

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