I stunning game of cricket. Both sets of player deserve nothing but praise. We were more fortunate in the end to get a draw and Gloucestershire deserve full credit for a brilliant declaration and great fight back . I thought before this match that van burren wasn’t really much of a cricket player. I’ve now changed my mind. Anyway you can’t complain after a match like that so can’t wait for the visit of Lancashire
The openers put us in a great position but then wickets fell regularly and Nuj had to save us from defeat again.Great entertaunment though and fair play to Gloucestershire for the declaration.Fair result in the end.Topspinner
This was a great game (if rather strange in some respects) but unfortunately you are right, Peakfan. Jewell and Came did so well before tea that we really should have won the game. The trouble is that making 300 plus in the fourth innings, even in favourable conditions, isn't as easy as our Test team made it look yesterday, because winning (as opposed to getting close) requires a good deal of mental strength. it's for that reason that I thought Leicestershire made a costly mistake earlier this season by delaying their declaration. And even though we played very well for much of the game, with several terrific individual performances, we showed a frailty at crucial moments that is all too familiar.
Yes, we needed someone to hold their hand up, Martin and say 'I am going to win this game'
Nuj has proved adept at saving them, but pacing run chases is a special skill given to few. The loss of Lloyd was maybe a factor. The absence of Reece certainly was
After a relatively generous declaration and a marvellous opening stand that was a huge disappointment. Yet again our middle order folded like a pack of cards with for the second time in the match Guest, Andersson and Thomson contributing next to nothing. We are often told that whilst Guest cannot clear the ropes he’s good at keeping the scoreboard ticking along. We needed barely 4 an over with wickets in hand. It was made for him. As for Andersson he went into the t20 scoring like Bradman and came out of it more like Tufnell/Panesar. In the end we were hanging on for the draw points when the win was there for the taking. Still in a good position but do we have the bottle to achieve promotion ? Paul
Depending what happens there may not be a division one to be promoted to...
Andersson? Another victim of T20, in going from building an innings to slogging it and getting yourself out of form. Can't be easy to master both formats
It was indeed a great match. We can rue the failure to win having failed to ram home a battng advantage in both innings due to collapses which both amounted to 8 wickets for about 90, but Came had a terrific match, Morley bowled superbly when conditions were at their most helpful , and Gloucs nust take credit for their resilience. We're far from the finished article in red ball, and we may not have enough to gain promotion this year, but at least we've moned forward. (Unlike in white ball, unfortunately).
The first wicket stand certainly set us up, but as Martin has mentioned above, it isn't easy and the bowling team will always start as favourite in any chase of 250+, and we werent helped by seemingly effectively being a batter short, with Lloyd only coming in at the end to help to save the match. In the end it was great character (again) to save a match we could easily have lost. Finally a quick word of congratulation to Caleb Jewell for being the first to pass 1000 all format runs for the season.
But when the draw points are the level they are, you play the system. You would have a decent season if you drew every match and picked up decent bonus points for batting and bowling. Until they more highly incentivise a win, teams will opt for plan B with fewer qualms
The current points scoring system is partly why low crowds are the norm in CC . Batting and bowling. bonus points. max 3 for each over 90 overs not 110. Bowling points at 3 6 and 9 wickets , batting points at 250 _300 and 350 . 5 points for a draw , 20 points for the win would surely lead to more positive cricket being played .
To not win, from the position we were in at tea, was very disappointing. It's probably why we will not achieve promotion.
Andersson seems to have lost a little confidence, very nervous innings from him today. Messing him about in the batting order in the T20 might not have helped. Looks a little out of rhythm. As mentioned, it was set up for someone like Guest to see us home with sensible cricket, but we generally looked nervy. Bottled it.
Full credit to Gloucestershire for the decoration that looked very generous at tea. The team is in amazing position going into round 9. My thoughts are we need Tickner and Reece fit. I would be tempted to open Jewell and Came then bat Donald at 5 for Lloyd. The batting looks fragile from 5 onwards that would be my concern going into Lancashire fixture.
Yes, it was an entertaining game and finish - but, oh, how did we not win this game after such a brilliant stand between Jewell and Came? After tea, we collapsed - yet again. And we shut up shop too early. A win was a real possibility, and we bottled it.
Difficult to take a non partizan view but that was a great advert for the 4 day game. Gloucestershire made a great recovery and that declaration kept the game alive. Unfortunately it was yet another batting collapse after a fine start. Let's take the positives. Harry Came is back at his best. Please Mickey, let him stay opening the batting. Jack Morley did really well in the first innings. The skipper knocked up another ton and Caleb is still amongst the runs. 8 games in and still no defeats and still 2nd in the table. We would have taken that at the start of April.
The middle order batting is so poor and has shown no signs of anyone who's going to go on to a big score. That game should've been sown up after Came and Jewell laid the foundations, but then the panic sets in and we start to collapse, we've seen it most of the season. A real missed opportunity to put the pressure on Leicestershire, who i hate to say are looking a real strong team in all formats this season
Too scared to lose for a reason. We've won the same amount of games as the bottom side Kent, so clearly draws with healthy bonus points are very valuable. Kris
Lancs fan here - see some of you are disappointed with the performance that leaves you stranded in the doldrums of a comfortable second place. Spare a thought for your less fortunate next opponents (yes, I know that thought is 'ha ha ha', but you have to try ;)). Watched much of the match as ours at Blackpool was clearly going to be a draw from the first session and thought it a fine advert for the four day game. You weren't playing one of the less good sides in the division (that would be on Sunday), they're in the mix for promotion too and they had the substantial spur of the loss of Syd Lawrence to push them on too. Would also point out that there were 5,000 watching the stream at the end of the match, so clearly there's interest. Let's put it this way, I'd bite your hand off to swap places!
I stunning game of cricket. Both sets of player deserve nothing but praise. We were more fortunate in the end to get a draw and Gloucestershire deserve full credit for a brilliant declaration and great fight back . I thought before this match that van burren wasn’t really much of a cricket player. I’ve now changed my mind. Anyway you can’t complain after a match like that so can’t wait for the visit of Lancashire
ReplyDeleteThe openers put us in a great position but then wickets fell regularly and Nuj had to save us from defeat again.Great entertaunment though and fair play to Gloucestershire for the declaration.Fair result in the end.Topspinner
ReplyDeleteThis was a great game (if rather strange in some respects) but unfortunately you are right, Peakfan. Jewell and Came did so well before tea that we really should have won the game. The trouble is that making 300 plus in the fourth innings, even in favourable conditions, isn't as easy as our Test team made it look yesterday, because winning (as opposed to getting close) requires a good deal of mental strength. it's for that reason that I thought Leicestershire made a costly mistake earlier this season by delaying their declaration. And even though we played very well for much of the game, with several terrific individual performances, we showed a frailty at crucial moments that is all too familiar.
ReplyDeleteYes, we needed someone to hold their hand up, Martin and say 'I am going to win this game'
DeleteNuj has proved adept at saving them, but pacing run chases is a special skill given to few. The loss of Lloyd was maybe a factor. The absence of Reece certainly was
After a relatively generous declaration and a marvellous opening stand that was a huge disappointment. Yet again our middle order folded like a pack of cards with for the second time in the match Guest, Andersson and Thomson contributing next to nothing. We are often told that whilst Guest cannot clear the ropes he’s good at keeping the scoreboard ticking along. We needed barely 4 an over with wickets in hand. It was made for him. As for Andersson he went into the t20 scoring like Bradman and came out of it more like Tufnell/Panesar. In the end we were hanging on for the draw points when the win was there for the taking. Still in a good position but do we have the bottle to achieve promotion ?
ReplyDeletePaul
Depending what happens there may not be a division one to be promoted to...
DeleteAndersson? Another victim of T20, in going from building an innings to slogging it and getting yourself out of form. Can't be easy to master both formats
Feel like we really missed Luis Reece, the lower middle order looked weak, hence collapsing twice.
ReplyDelete100%, Adam. Any side would miss the person top of batting and bowling averages
DeleteAfter the start we had we should have won. That could cost us big time. Grant from Telford
ReplyDeleteIt was indeed a great match. We can rue the failure to win having failed to ram home a battng advantage in both innings due to collapses which both amounted to 8 wickets for about 90, but Came had a terrific match, Morley bowled superbly when conditions were at their most helpful , and Gloucs nust take credit for their resilience. We're far from the finished article in red ball, and we may not have enough to gain promotion this year, but at least we've moned forward. (Unlike in white ball, unfortunately).
ReplyDeleteYes, regardless of what happens from here, Phil, there has been clear red ball progress
DeleteThe first wicket stand certainly set us up, but as Martin has mentioned above, it isn't easy and the bowling team will always start as favourite in any chase of 250+, and we werent helped by seemingly effectively being a batter short, with Lloyd only coming in at the end to help to save the match. In the end it was great character (again) to save a match we could easily have lost.
ReplyDeleteFinally a quick word of congratulation to Caleb Jewell for being the first to pass 1000 all format runs for the season.
Too scared to lose. We bottled it. It should have been a canter
ReplyDeleteBut when the draw points are the level they are, you play the system. You would have a decent season if you drew every match and picked up decent bonus points for batting and bowling. Until they more highly incentivise a win, teams will opt for plan B with fewer qualms
DeleteThe current points scoring system is partly why low crowds are the norm in CC . Batting and bowling. bonus points. max 3 for each over 90 overs not 110. Bowling points at 3 6 and 9 wickets , batting points at 250 _300 and 350 . 5 points for a draw , 20 points for the win would surely lead to more positive cricket being played .
DeleteTo not win, from the position we were in at tea, was very disappointing. It's probably why we will not achieve promotion.
ReplyDeleteAndersson seems to have lost a little confidence, very nervous innings from him today. Messing him about in the batting order in the T20 might not have helped. Looks a little out of rhythm. As mentioned, it was set up for someone like Guest to see us home with sensible cricket, but we generally looked nervy. Bottled it.
Full credit to Gloucestershire for the decoration that looked very generous at tea. The team is in amazing position going into round 9. My thoughts are we need Tickner and Reece fit. I would be tempted to open Jewell and Came then bat Donald at 5 for Lloyd. The batting looks fragile from 5 onwards that would be my concern going into Lancashire fixture.
ReplyDeleteYes, it was an entertaining game and finish - but, oh, how did we not win this game after such a brilliant stand between Jewell and Came? After tea, we collapsed - yet again. And we shut up shop too early. A win was a real possibility, and we bottled it.
ReplyDeleteDifficult to take a non partizan view but that was a great advert for the 4 day game. Gloucestershire made a great recovery and that declaration kept the game alive.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately it was yet another batting collapse after a fine start.
Let's take the positives. Harry Came is back at his best.
Please Mickey, let him stay opening the batting. Jack Morley did really well in the first innings. The skipper knocked up another ton and Caleb is still amongst the runs.
8 games in and still no defeats and still 2nd in the table. We would have taken that at the start of April.
The middle order batting is so poor and has shown no signs of anyone who's going to go on to a big score. That game should've been sown up after Came and Jewell laid the foundations, but then the panic sets in and we start to collapse, we've seen it most of the season. A real missed opportunity to put the pressure on Leicestershire, who i hate to say are looking a real strong team in all formats this season
ReplyDeleteToo scared to lose for a reason. We've won the same amount of games as the bottom side Kent, so clearly draws with healthy bonus points are very valuable. Kris
ReplyDeleteDisappointed we’re not winning games is better than being disappointed losing games
ReplyDeleteLancs fan here - see some of you are disappointed with the performance that leaves you stranded in the doldrums of a comfortable second place. Spare a thought for your less fortunate next opponents (yes, I know that thought is 'ha ha ha', but you have to try ;)). Watched much of the match as ours at Blackpool was clearly going to be a draw from the first session and thought it a fine advert for the four day game. You weren't playing one of the less good sides in the division (that would be on Sunday), they're in the mix for promotion too and they had the substantial spur of the loss of Syd Lawrence to push them on too. Would also point out that there were 5,000 watching the stream at the end of the match, so clearly there's interest. Let's put it this way, I'd bite your hand off to swap places!
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