tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post8058289875076689810..comments2024-03-29T08:20:35.668+00:00Comments on Derbyshire Cricket - Peakfan's blog: Essex v Derbyshire day 4Peakfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01328174919897893268noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-19256324267176821522016-05-19T09:23:23.771+01:002016-05-19T09:23:23.771+01:00Fair points Gary but we lost those two for reasons...Fair points Gary but we lost those two for reasons other than those coming through alone. Peakfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328174919897893268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-63561654856884626452016-05-19T09:21:58.002+01:002016-05-19T09:21:58.002+01:00An average of 25 after his first season didnt sugg...An average of 25 after his first season didnt suggest so..he didnt make a thousand until his fifth summer so 'looking a class act' and producing the stats to match didnt come easily...each develops in their own timePeakfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328174919897893268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-25495449164961752012016-05-19T09:01:59.442+01:002016-05-19T09:01:59.442+01:00The worrying thing for me is we don't seem to ...The worrying thing for me is we don't seem to stick to a plan or whether we actually have one. We seemed to lose people like Tim Groenewald and Wayne White because we have young seamers coming through that we think are going to be better due to our impressive coaching set up. However we get to the start of the season and we start with a team with no youngsters in the team and an apparently not game ready on-loan fast bowler - just gives out mixed messages. We then seem to declare Wes Durston will be our spinner and after a couple of games he is out and Critchley is back in - No problem with either of this but the chopping and changing cant help either of them.<br />Adding to this the odd change of captaincy timing. I know this was apparently due to off the field issues but does this really stack up with the team having been working all winter under a different captain with probably different messages being sent out?<br />If we don't get off to some sort of decent start in the one dayers then I can see the pressure really starting to build as the progress on the field is clearly not matching the progress off itGarynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-11924009652091461742016-05-19T08:58:41.933+01:002016-05-19T08:58:41.933+01:00The pitch wasn't the winner the weather was. D...The pitch wasn't the winner the weather was. Derby would have lost had 76 overs not been lost on the last day.<br /><br />As for vince he's looked a class act for years. The Derbyshire young quicks have not even shown flashes of class unfortunately.<br /><br />TAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-22278085568052573292016-05-19T07:36:40.024+01:002016-05-19T07:36:40.024+01:00Yes, Tim, you are right. Had weather not intervene...Yes, Tim, you are right. Had weather not intervened we'd have (at least) drawn three, lost two by now. I am not interested in suggestions we might have lost the others, because we might not and will never know.<br /><br />We need a good performance against Kent before the one-day stuff starts. I said at the start of the summer that I thought it might be our strength this summer as we have several bowlers capable of bowling tight and plenty of batsmen and all rounders who can hit hard and often.<br /><br />We did well pre-season and some winning performances would kick start the seasonPeakfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328174919897893268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-27842887298550424772016-05-19T07:27:25.338+01:002016-05-19T07:27:25.338+01:00You are right, Adam. We have only twice, in the 19...You are right, Adam. We have only twice, in the 1930s and 1950s, been among the best counties. We flirted with it for the one season that Dean Jones was here, and should have done better in the Kim Barnett era, when we had good players but lost as many as we won, rarely challenging for honours.<br /><br />We need to have realistic expectations and those you refer to are probably the summit of ambitions this year. Good comments. <br /><br />Re the pitches - I take your point on preparing for Test matches, but they are played over five days! Maybe they will get better at pitch preparation, but getting tonked around for a day and a half does nothing for any prospective bowler. <br /><br />Trent Bridge, to be fair, isn't the best example as it has had its own climatic ecosystem since the stands went up. Sometimes weird things happen for bowlers, though in itself that makes for exciting cricket. Any of us would, I am sure take a wicket that produces a last session result on the final day!Peakfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328174919897893268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-23866658139611626692016-05-19T07:10:05.001+01:002016-05-19T07:10:05.001+01:00Unbeaten, absolutely. But only fair, in the intere...Unbeaten, absolutely. But only fair, in the interests of balance, to point out that we are without a win and more importantly not been even close to a position that we might do. <br /><br />I'm still clinging on to the option of drawing every single 4 day game to at least win some sort of prize. Tim, Chesterfieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-59712789610195134002016-05-19T06:51:43.791+01:002016-05-19T06:51:43.791+01:00I agree largely with what you are saying, I think ...I agree largely with what you are saying, I think that sometimes we all have too high an expectation of what we can achieve. I have often had the debate with people about what is the objective at Derbyshire CCC. I think at present a finish in the top 5 in the championship and a quarter final finish in one or both (maybe I am aiming too high now) in the limited overs competitions. <br /><br />The cold hard facts though are that in membership terms we are in the bottom 3, again attendance wise we are in the bottom 3. The odds are always stacked against us so we do have to be realistic in our expectations. County cricket is heavily funded by the ECB, it would not survive in it's present form without the payment that the counties get each year so we do have a duty to try to produce young talent for England as opposed to short term fixes. The time that this takes can be frustrating but patience must be shown. <br /><br />I would disagree on the new toss rule though, when it was first announced I was against it but I am a firm supporter of it now. It has created a set of pitches that are much closer to test match standard wickets that are going the distance and batsmen have to bat for long periods and bowlers really have to stay on their lines and length. The game at Trent Bridge this week has shown that exciting 'result' pitches can be produced. Adam Oakleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-87150373139793617702016-05-18T22:45:01.886+01:002016-05-18T22:45:01.886+01:00I've watched Taylor and Cotton a lot and both ...I've watched Taylor and Cotton a lot and both rarely beat the bat even at Derby. I don't see where we really go from here in the fast bowling department <br /><br />Still looking for a spinner as well. When will the remodelling of Knight's action be complete? When will it be on display?<br /><br />This might not be the worst Derbyshire team in my lifetime but the bowling department is doing their best to claim that accoladeDougnoreply@blogger.com