tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post2428850191496945429..comments2024-03-29T08:20:35.668+00:00Comments on Derbyshire Cricket - Peakfan's blog: Midweek musingsPeakfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01328174919897893268noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-83312152107700477902014-03-26T19:46:41.302+00:002014-03-26T19:46:41.302+00:00Good points by both of you and I made the point th...Good points by both of you and I made the point that it was a good article.<br />However, my point is that we're facing lesser attacks than last summer. There's still some very good bowlers but I think the batting we have is more than adequate for this division, as they have shown before.<br />If four players reach or get close to a thousand, we'll do well. Madsen, Shiv and Moore should be thereabouts, Durston certainly has the ability. I would expect Godleman and him to do better this year. <br />Take your points about the stats but I'm expecting a couple of batters to take sizeable strides forward this summer. <br />Watch this space!Peakfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328174919897893268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-17207365921335380962014-03-26T12:06:29.261+00:002014-03-26T12:06:29.261+00:00I thought Dobell's article was well written an...I thought Dobell's article was well written and fair. I'm afraid I may have to agree with him and disagree with you about our batting peakfan: it does give me concern. The following table illustrates the point. It gives career first class averages, 2013 averages and 2012 averages (for counties).<br /> Career 2013 2012<br />Chanderpaul 55.18 38.43 -<br />Madsen 36.96 41.30 38.47<br />Moore 36.39 20.25 17.40<br />Durston 34.39 18.64 34.82<br />C Hughes 32.19 30.28 28.00<br />Godleman 28.63 17.18 28.60<br />Borrington 27.39 26.12 21.40<br />Johnson 22.02 25.27 15.33<br />Slater 20.85 19.70 -<br />Elstone has played no first class cricket.<br />I know statistics can be used for all sorts of purposes but the fact is that we only have three batsmen with a career average of above 35, one of which is coming off two poor seasons.<br />With the exceptions of Madsen and Chanderpaul all batsmen should be looking to improve significantly from 2013 and unless several do so we will not compete. Widening the time period to 2012 only Durston emerges with much credit.<br />Of course division 2 is a lower level than division 1 but I think it would be naive not to recognise that the batters have some significant work to do if we are to challenge for promotion. No doubt they can do this; however batting, for my money, has a question mark hanging over it for the moment.<br /><br />Spireite TimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46846306391908034.post-35861490399550065472014-03-26T09:02:00.935+00:002014-03-26T09:02:00.935+00:00Obviously Dobell is looking at things in quite gen...Obviously Dobell is looking at things in quite general terms,but for the most part,he isn,t too far from the truth. Anyone arguing against the broad thrust of his batting analysis is standing on shaky statistical ground. Statistics are often meaningless but the fact remains we too often failed to achieve a satisfactory total when batting. That culminated in a number of inexplicable collapses which saw games drawn which could have been won and nailed on draws resulting in defeat. Had Madsen followed a similar path to the rest of the batting we would have sunk without trace,well before the end of the season.<br /><br />To blame our failings solely on the batting would be ignoring the fact that we also struggled to take wickets,particularly during the first half of the season when conditions were more favourable to the bowlers. Much of the blame does lie with the batting,but not all of it.<br /><br />To all intents and purposes he seems to be suggesting that Krikken was effectively sacked. Had he applied for the ECPD post and subsequently been turned down,that conclusion may have been inescapable,but the fact he chose not to apply renders any argument along those lines null and void.<br /><br />Overall,I think Mr Dobell has summed things up reasonably well,though I do think he is a little harsh on Moore,whilst at the same time over-rating Whitely and Redfern. Moore does have a point to prove,but that also applies to quite a number of other players.<br /><br />Marcnoreply@blogger.com